which side to fly courtesy flag?

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hi sorry if this has been asked before, but cant find the answer, am going to france, have an `a` frame on the cabin roof, where do i fly the french courtesy flag please ( what side) and also have a local ` breton flag`, where do i fly that please? thanks!
 
Normally on the starboard side of your mast if you have one.

Generally the national courtesy flag above with the regional flag below that.
 
Generally the national courtesy flag above with the regional flag below that.
FWIW, I never use any regional c'flag when cruising abroad.
And I surely wouldn't fly a Breton flag below the French one anyway, based on my experience with Bretons... :)
 
FWIW, I never use any regional c'flag when cruising abroad.
And I surely wouldn't fly a Breton flag below the French one anyway, based on my experience with Bretons... :)
I sort of want to agree the principle mapisM. But if you don't fly a bandana-head man in bandit country, er, I mean Corsica, and fly the french tricolour instead, prepare to be last in the queue for any nice marina berth :-)
 
Point taken, but I'd rather fly the regional flag alone, in that case.
Flying a c'flag is not mandatory anyway...
Frinstance, here in IT, barely one out 10 foreign boats flies a correct IT courtesy flag!
Including boats actually owned by Italians but registered in the UK, F, etc. :eek:

PS: anyway, out of curiosity, do you fly the Corsican flag below the French on stbd spreader, or above, or elsewhere?
 
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Point taken, but I'd rather fly the regional flag alone, in that case.
Flying a c'flag is not mandatory anyway...
Frinstance, here in IT, barely one out 10 foreign boats flies a correct IT courtesy flag!
Including boats actually owned by Italians but registered in the UK, F, etc. :eek:

PS: anyway, out of curiosity, do you fly the Corsican flag below the French on stbd spreader, or above, or elsewhere?

I fly the Corsica flag alone in Corsica. If I fly one above the other, someone will punch me :D, whereas if i fly just the man-in-the-bandana the Corsicans approve and the French seem not to care.

Ref the IT flag, it should have the emblem in the centre, right? Problem is, all the shops sell them without. I'd love to fly the correct one but don't know where to buy it!
 
Ref the IT flag, it should have the emblem in the centre, right? Problem is, all the shops sell them without. I'd love to fly the correct one but don't know where to buy it!
Aaargh, no!
Only IT registered boats are entitled to fly the (civil) maritime ensign, which is the one with the emblem in the center, representing the four historical maritime republics.
The plain IT flag is what you're supposed to fly as c'flag, so it looks like you're using the correct one, even if in doubt of being wrong! :)
Funny though, most of those who are flying the flag with the emblem tell me that it's the only one they found in chandlers...
...maybe you found it a non-boating shop?

100% agreed re. flying the Region flag alone rather than both the Country+Region - that's exactly what I said in my last post.
 
Aaargh, no!
Only IT registered boats are entitled to fly the (civil) maritime ensign, which is the one with the emblem in the center, representing the four historical maritime republics.
The plain IT flag is what you're supposed to fly as c'flag, so it looks like you're using the correct one, even if in doubt of being wrong! :)
Funny though, most of those who are flying the flag with the emblem tell me that it's the only one they found in chandlers...
...maybe you found it a non-boating shop?

100% agreed re. flying the Region flag alone rather than both the Country+Region - that's exactly what I said in my last post.

Ah that's a relief. Thanks for explaining. I'm flying a plain IT tricolour with no emblem in the middle, when in IT waters, so that's correct. I think I just bought it online; can't remember

But no flag maker should make a courtesy flag with the emblem in the middle, right? By definition, only non IT reg boats would fly an IT c'flag and so they all should fly the ordinary IT flag sans emblem. So I'm surpirised so many get this wrong...
 
Normally on the starboard side of your mast if you have one.

Generally the national courtesy flag above with the regional flag below that.

I always thought that a national flag flown over another's national or regional flag meant that the upper flag had vanquished/conquered the nation/region of the lower flag.

If I'm wrong, no doubt I'll hear about it.

Anyway, I think flag courtesy/etiquette is a decent and friendly thing to do and should be promoted at every opportunity.
But living in Scotland ( I am an English exile) I wonder what might happen if Shrek/The Fat Controller gets his way?
 
I always thought that a national flag flown over another's national or regional flag meant that the upper flag had vanquished/conquered the nation/region of the lower flag.

Certainly would have that implication if they were two national flags. But a region being subordinate to its parent country doesn't seem controversial to me (perhaps just because I'm not in the Hampshire Separatist Militia?).

The French flag pretty much has to be on the starboard crosstree end; I would fly the Norman flag on the port side instead of below it, but the forum burgee has already taken that spot :D

St Piran's Cross at the masthead, and the Red Ensign from the peak of the mizzen gaff; I have a good boat for flaggery :)

Pete
 
Certainly would have that implication if they were two national flags. But a region being subordinate to its parent country doesn't seem controversial to me (perhaps just because I'm not in the Hampshire Separatist Militia?).

The French flag pretty much has to be on the starboard crosstree end; I would fly the Norman flag on the port side instead of below it, but the forum burgee has already taken that spot :D

St Piran's Cross at the masthead, and the Red Ensign from the peak of the mizzen gaff; I have a good boat for flaggery :)
Pete

Jolly good show, Pete. Keep it up!
 
But no flag maker should make a courtesy flag with the emblem in the middle, right? By definition, only non IT reg boats would fly an IT c'flag and so they all should fly the ordinary IT flag sans emblem. So I'm surpirised so many get this wrong...
100% correct. But my understanding is that most boaters only buy the courtesy flag upon arrival in IT (as they probably would do in other Countries).
And any chandler which you'll find in or near a marina is more likely to stock maritime ensigns, rather than the Country flag.
So, needless to say, if asked for a courtesy flag, they'll rather sell the "incorrect" one than nothing at all...!
I wouldn't rate it as an eternal sin, anyway.
I mean, neither flying the maritime ensigne, nor sell it as a courtesy flag. :)
 
100% correct. But my understanding is that most boaters only buy the courtesy flag upon arrival in IT (as they probably would do in other Countries).
And any chandler which you'll find in or near a marina is more likely to stock maritime ensigns, rather than the Country flag.
So, needless to say, if asked for a courtesy flag, they'll rather sell the "incorrect" one than nothing at all...!
I wouldn't rate it as an eternal sin, anyway.
I mean, neither flying the maritime ensigne, nor sell it as a courtesy flag. :)

I can hear you backpedalling MapisM, having now had to admit that your fellow countrymen are causing this problem in pursuit of a fast buck :D:D:D:D
 
LOL, good point J, but I can easily reject the suspicion of nationalism - see my previous post #7:
"Including boats actually owned by Italians but registered in the UK, F, etc." ;)
 
hi sorry if this has been asked before, but cant find the answer, am going to france, have an `a` frame on the cabin roof, where do i fly the french courtesy flag please ( what side) and also have a local ` breton flag`, where do i fly that please? thanks!

Only 16 posts elioti:eek:

If you had put this in the Raggie forum you would have had at least 100 replies and a thread that would last for weeks.:)

It's only the Brits that make a fuss about courtesy flags.
 
It's only the Brits that make a fuss about courtesy flags.

Not entirely true, I've heard of people getting hassled in various parts of the world for their absence. An old merchant mariner I was talking to on a square-rigger told me his ship had been shot at by a naval sentry in South America for not flying a courtesy flag.

Pete
 
Only 16 posts elioti:eek:

If you had put this in the Raggie forum you would have had at least 100 replies and a thread that would last for weeks.:)

It's only the Brits that make a fuss about courtesy flags.

Go to Turkey without one and see what happens. Or even worse, one faded in the sun.
 
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