Which outboard ?

clydeoutboardservices said:
er when did the original poster say he was using it in an area with a strong current. :confused: If he had my answer would have reflected that but as there is no mention of strong currents and tides my advice still stands.

As for knots / mph that was just a pathetic comment. This is a forum and last time I looked we are not asked to use nautical terms for everything or will you throw your toys out of your pram if I said it was 20 feet deep as well! Also not everyone knows have fast 4 knots is but everyone knows how fast 4 mph is and hence it makes it easier for people who dont know to understand the post.

back to the OP. I know this is a long shot but if you are in Scotland / North of England and can get to the Scottish boat show at inverkip marina on Friday Saturday or Sunday then we will have similar tenders on the water that you could try with various engine sizes.
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No need to turn into your usual moronic self Dave (for anyone else reading this, Dave has an erm, reputation on a few other forums). The MPH/Knots comment was clearly tongue in cheek. However, i'm sure almost everyone here knows what a knot is. Just for you though, 1 knot = 1.15077945 mph.

As it so happens, the OP has his boat a bit South of me, on the East coast, so i happen to know exactly what tides he'll be using it in.
 
PaulGooch said:
No need to turn into your usual moronic self Dave (for anyone else reading this, Dave has an erm, reputation on a few other forums). .
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Its sad to see you are abusive on here as other forums Paul and re my reputation I guess people will make their own mind up on this and other forums but so far I only seem to get abuse from the same 4 people so am happy with how I come across.

Dave
 
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Which outboard

Goodness! it is usually me whom has to stand on the norty step. I do not want to get it up on plane and I do want it to be light enough to possible get on board as I will not be having davits etc.
Having said that I realise that I have made a bit of a rick buying this dinghy as it is certainly heavy(I can't lift it when the floor is in) which I though was a good thing but I realise that I will not be able to get it on board. What would be the best way to handle the situation? an yes one option might be to sell it but I bought it to be as stable as possible to encourage swmbo as I am a returner after 32 years away and she doesnot like lumpy water but is extremely enthusiastic about the boat.
For this reason I will not be attempting anything that involves strong streams. Initially, once the boat is afloat, I shall be mooring on a swinging mooring at Walton on the Naze and the dinghy will be used to ferry me out to the boat an hour or so before high tide.
 
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Paddingtonbear said:
In order to get afloat by next spring I have bought a 2.8m Hypalon inflatable for use as a tender. I am now looking for a second hand outboard and it appears the choice is as follow

2.3 Air cooled Honda
NO!


2.3 watercooled Suzuki
YES!


2.6 Yamaha clone
NO!

or a possibility

Brand new Parsun 2.6 which got a good review in PBO, for a similar sum to the Honda.
NO!

Comments please
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Tiddler ding like yours
Great bit of kit
BUT
Don't be thinking of using it as a 'S.I.B -- R.I.B' as a Sports boat
Only flash read the thread
BUT
Mainly I reckon you will use said tender as a tender?
Unless You have a bathing platform with snap davits
You need the lightest outboard that will move the ding along nicely
Unless you want back problems in the future or you want to turn your outboard into an anchor when you drop it overboard
Yep yer ding would fly with a 5 hp two stroke maybe
Bear in mind
The weight of a four stroke
Not only for lifting
But the power to weight ratio will kill the performance
If it is 'performance' you want
A two stroke will pick it's skirts up a lot quicker too and 'zoom' you off much better than a four stroke
Different power delivery
There are smaller good used 2 stroke outboards out there!
'Yamaha Malta' thats a good un
Rated at 3 or 3.5 but it thinks its a 4hp
The older but still servicable evinrude/johnson 2 cylinder 4hp have some grunt as well and are light
5 hp two stroke for max enjoyment:D
 
Paddingtonbear said:
Goodness! it is usually me whom has to stand on the norty step. I do not want to get it up on plane and I do want it to be light enough to possible get on board as I will not be having davits etc.
Having said that I realise that I have made a bit of a rick buying this dinghy as it is certainly heavy(I can lift it when the floor is in) which I though was a good thing but I realise that I will not be able to get it on board. What would be the best way to handle the situation? an yes one option might be to sell it but I bought it to be as stable as possible to encourage swmbo as I am a returner after 32 years away and she doesnot like lumpy water but is extremely enthusiastic about the boat.
For this reason I will not be attempting anything that involves strong streams. Initially, once the boat is afloat, I shall be mooring on a swinging mooring at Walton on the Naze and the dinghy will be used to ferry me out to the boat an hour or so before high tide.
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I still recommend the Mercury/Mariner (there are loads of different badges) 2.5 0or 3.3 2 stroke. Light and bombproof.
 
clydeoutboardservices said:
Its sad to see you are abusive on here as other forums Paul and re my reputation I guess people will make their own mind up on this and other forums but so far I only seem to get abuse from the same 4 people so am happy with how I come across.

Dave
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Thing with internet forums, for every person that say someone is a pratt, 30 more will be thinking it and keeping quiet :D
 
PaulGooch said:
Thing with internet forums, for every person that say someone is a pratt, 30 more will be thinking it and keeping quiet :D
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Paul

you keep doing this and I must admit I am at a loss as to what you gain by doing it and I have no idea how this helps the OP.:confused:

back to the matter in hand:

of the engines listed the only one I hear people not happy with due to salt deposit build up is the suzi but if the engine was flushed out more often this would obviously help solve this.

The other engines mentioned are all v common and I am sure your local dealer would let you test a couple if you asked nicely.

If the weight is an issue you could also look at launching wheels. This are a cheap and easy solution.

Dave
 
Kawasaki said:
Tiddler ding like yours
Great bit of kit
BUT
Don't be thinking of using it as a 'S.I.B -- R.I.B' as a Sports boat
Only flash read the thread
BUT
Mainly I reckon you will use said tender as a tender?
Unless You have a bathing platform with snap davits
You need the lightest outboard that will move the ding along nicely
Unless you want back problems in the future or you want to turn your outboard into an anchor when you drop it overboard
Yep yer ding would fly with a 5 hp two stroke maybe
Bear in mind
The weight of a four stroke
Not only for lifting
But the power to weight ratio will kill the performance
If it is 'performance' you want
A two stroke will pick it's skirts up a lot quicker too and 'zoom' you off much better than a four stroke
Different power delivery
There are smaller good used 2 stroke outboards out there!
'Yamaha Malta' thats a good un
Rated at 3 or 3.5 but it thinks its a 4hp
The older but still servicable evinrude/johnson 2 cylinder 4hp have some grunt as well and are light
5 hp two stroke for max enjoyment:D
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I'd definitely go the 2stroke route. I've got a Yamaha Malta which I occasionally use on a 2.8 SIB and actually find it rather gutless, although like all Yams it's ultra reliable. I also have a 4 hp Tohatsu, and although a little heavier, feels like it has twice the power of the Malta. And I've had a few 4hp Mariners in the past, again great engines. And none of them too heavy, would hate to have to carry the equivalent 4 stroke.
 
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I have the chance of a 5hp Yamaha 2 stroke locally, would this be too brutal? and also too heavy to manhandle about whilst afloat.
 
Paddingtonbear said:
I have the chance of a 5hp Yamaha 2 stroke locally, would this be too brutal? and also too heavy to manhandle about whilst afloat.
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only old Yamaha 5hp were air cooled. But sounds a good compromise, 5hp will push you dinghy along ok, and 2 stroke will mean it wont be too heavy,


...and for those speed crazed folk, with a small child in control a 5hp should get your dinghy on the plane! :D
 
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I have just bought a rather tatty 3.5 yamaha air cooled 2 stroke, old but it seems a good runner. It was cheap in the scheme of things so I thought why not? as it will allow me to learn what suits this rather heavy dinghy that I have bought. Once I have sussed both the dinghy and the outboard situation out I will be looking for a nice, clinker boat and a seagull as more in keeping with the mothership. The fun will then start!!. Thanks to all for their comments.
 
Oh no they're not !!

single said:
Avoid the honda, they are rubbish. Read other threads.
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I've got a Honda 2.3 and a Mariner 3.5 - both 4 strokes.
The Honda has been far more reliable, is noticeably lighter and has better fuel economy.
But - it's got a harsh exhaust note and is noisier at low revs.
The Mariner is nowhere near as good, in use, as the Honda. In fact I'm about to get rid of it and change it for either another Honda or else a 2nd hand Mariner/Mercury/Tohatsu 3.3/3.5 2 stroke.
 
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