Which one Old Warrior 35 or newer Westerly 33 (Discus)?

[charles_reed]

Yes, I too

would go for the Warrior - mainly because I knew the designer quite well and someone who was brought in to sort Westerly's QA problems.

The latter resigned with a near-breakdown.

 

[Tranona]

Re: Yes, I too

Hi Boathead

The Warrior gets a good press for what you want to do (except they don't go backwards!). However, from what I have seen they are very variable. Many were home finished and subsequently much modded and added to by owners doing what you want to do.

As you probably know it was designed by Angus Primrose in the dying days of using wooden boat design principles for GRP manufacture. His next successful design was the original Moody 33/36 which he promptly sailed in the Transatlantic race of the time. A very different kind of boat, being the forerunner of the fin and skeg, wide beam etc type we know today, but many have completed circumnavigations and remain viable live aboards. The MK 2 33 is probably the best, better accommodation and finish than earlier boats - and on the button with your £30k budget.

Good luck with your search

 

[charles_reed]

Angus

always did design incredibly tubby boats, which could scuttle around remarkably quickly.

Yes Marine Projects had/have good moulding facilities and Moody far more consistent quality control than Westerly.

I'd put the reluctance of the Warrior to where pointed astern, to the semi-long keel underwater profile they had.

All long keel boats exhibit exhibit varying degrees of insubordination in reverse.

The good thing about tubby boats is they have lots of stowage and the one thing you need, when living aboard, is stowage.

 

[damo]

Re: Angus

I am just about to fit a Hydrovane to a Warrior 35 and I am keen to find out if what the seller says is true....the self-steering came off a Voyager (identical hull) and he said that going astern was improved out of all recognition when the aux rudder was locked amidships. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[bpbpbp]

not taking it personally... in fact- as we all know there is no perfect boat-- only some boats are better for some types of sailing than others - I think we can have reservations about some aspect of many different types of boat-- I was just puzzled as to why the original poster should have such a strong bias against bilge keels as to discount them altogether..

The deep fin version of my boat (catalina38) is notorious for keel problems caused by boatyards not blocking them correctly when on the hard.. I was very fortunate in finding a boat with a manufacturer modified keel that has never suffered from the problem..
I also don't like having such a large headsail compared with the main for long short hand passage making.. but for the majority of the sailing I do it is almost an ideal boat.. I was just wondering why - given the sort of sailing I would imagine the OP was planning he is so strongly against a bilge keel boat if a good one came on the market for a good price when they do have advantages for some cruising situations.
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I know it's a very old thread, but I'm curious to know why a large headsail compared to main might be an issue for long short hand passage making?