KINGFISHER 9
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Anchor bend.
Which Knot please.........
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VicS
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Anchor bend.
[/ QUOTE ] I already suggested that as a possibility!
Anchor bend.
[/ QUOTE ] I already suggested that as a possibility!
john_morris_uk
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Anchor bend? In what context are you suggesting this fine knot?
When I suggested learning the round turn and two half hitches, it was not connected in any way to the orginal question - except that the poster said he didn't know many knots. I was suggesting the RT&THH as another good knot to learn.
Now what do you mean by posting 'anchor bend' in that short and out of context way?
When I suggested learning the round turn and two half hitches, it was not connected in any way to the orginal question - except that the poster said he didn't know many knots. I was suggesting the RT&THH as another good knot to learn.
Now what do you mean by posting 'anchor bend' in that short and out of context way?
cliffordpope
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Looking closely at the illustration of the haliard knot it appears that it is really only a variant of the RT&THH, except that you make the two turns and then pass the rope through both at the same time, instead of each individually.
I must go and practice - it looks useful.
My difficulty with a bowline is that I can't tighten it up - the loop stays where you first form it, which I suppose is what you want for many applications.
I must go and practice - it looks useful.
My difficulty with a bowline is that I can't tighten it up - the loop stays where you first form it, which I suppose is what you want for many applications.
john_morris_uk
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Looking closely at the illustration of the haliard knot it appears that it is really only a variant of the RT&THH, except that you make the two turns and then pass the rope through both at the same time, instead of each individually. <span style="color:blue"> Well sort of - it does produce a locking knot which is extremely secure. </span>
I must go and practice - it looks useful.
My difficulty with a bowline is that I can't tighten it up - the loop stays where you first form it, which I suppose is what you want for many applications.<span style="color:blue"> Bowlines aren't supposed to tighten. If you want a loop that closes, use a round turn and two half hitches?</span>
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Looking closely at the illustration of the haliard knot it appears that it is really only a variant of the RT&THH, except that you make the two turns and then pass the rope through both at the same time, instead of each individually. <span style="color:blue"> Well sort of - it does produce a locking knot which is extremely secure. </span>
I must go and practice - it looks useful.
My difficulty with a bowline is that I can't tighten it up - the loop stays where you first form it, which I suppose is what you want for many applications.<span style="color:blue"> Bowlines aren't supposed to tighten. If you want a loop that closes, use a round turn and two half hitches?</span>
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cliffordpope
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I agree. But in my experience RT&THHs can be a bit unstable. They need a very pliable rope that stays bent. If the rope is at all stiff the hitches tend to open up and it begins to loosen, because there is actually nothing very much keeping the outer hitch tight.
Bowlines are good because all the turns tighten up on each other. Its weakness is that it has to be pulled really tight before you put any load on it, or it turns itself inside out and comes loose. A RT&THH can be done on a rope that is already beginning to take a load.
For a more permanent knot a RT&THH with a seizing is good, or on a light line tucking the end under one of the strands.
Bowlines are good because all the turns tighten up on each other. Its weakness is that it has to be pulled really tight before you put any load on it, or it turns itself inside out and comes loose. A RT&THH can be done on a rope that is already beginning to take a load.
For a more permanent knot a RT&THH with a seizing is good, or on a light line tucking the end under one of the strands.