Which is the best anchor - Bruce, Delta, CQR ???

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NautiBusby,
re your piccy post; Respect! /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Hadn't known the sizes from your post. You may just get by then??
Ours tend to be lighter so that SWMBO can lug them at the double around the boat to meet my requirements: whole economies built around the lifting power of little old ladies.

In the event of a big blow, the lot goes out, in tandem/ double moor, with a quick sacrifical libation to Odin and check of engine, vhf and Liferaft!

Look forward to your anchor thread idc, ground tackle not an obssession of mine at all, at all.

Bon Voyage
 
I had a Fiat Panda once. Worst car I've ever owned. I wouldn't trust one even as an angel. I think it would either dissolve in the salt water or, more likely, fail in some entirely unexpected way. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Bruce... simply the best.. you COULD get a ROCNA to plough up yer aunties lawn.. but [--word removed--] fer anything else according to the manufacturers... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif they state PLENTY of anecdotal bs but nothing of substance...

THE best anchor in the World around thirty years ago was without doubt the CQR (Developed to be a folding anchor for seaplanes)..cruisers loved the holding ability and the fact that the flukes could be tied up out of the way... then, Simpson Lawrance decided to make it better, more up to date, more cost effective, and built like a yorkshire toilet <span style="color:red"> !!!!!!</span> the result was the <span style="color:blue"> DELTA... </span>
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There was a fairy.. her name was Nuff...


Fairy Nuff !!!

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Ships seem to use nothing but Danforths which might mean something.

nope, it just means they dont anchor often.. and the flukes stow flat.. nothing at all to do with ability really.

EDIT ---- AND I DO have all chain rode -65 mtrs of 10 mm stainless chain (Tested, certified etc) in the aft of the forepeak bunks (around 3.5 mts aft of the original allocation.---- along with 45 mtrs of 10mm galv HT in the midships bilge.. to a 25Kg delta... what more could a man want ??/ /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif - oh, and a 15kg DF.. an FX16 fortress, a bruce 15Kg... and a few grapnels...
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AND, I have 300 mtrs of back up line.. but of course !! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif not only for anchoring.... we use it for mooring, snubbers, quick fixes... towing.. anything...

Its not JUST the gun.. its also the GUNNER..... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
Ah, the old 'CQR was developed for seaplanes' story. Another urban myth.

In fact, the CQR was developed by Geoffrey Ingram Taylor, a physicist, mathematician and expert on fluid dynamics and wave theory. He has been described as "one of the greatest physical scientists of the 20th century".

In addition to his superb record as a leading scientist of his age, his studies of the movement of unicellular marine creatures and the weather were related to his life-long love of sailing. In the 1930s he invented the 'CQR' anchor which was both stronger and more manageable then any in use. It was intended from the outset for sailing use but was subsequently used for all sorts of small craft including seaplanes.
 
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Ships seem to use nothing but Danforths which might mean something.

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nope, it just means they dont anchor often.. and the flukes stow flat.. nothing at all to do with ability really.

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Ships anchor a lot in the Solent area and a decent anchor could save ship and crew on a lee shore so anchor quality *is* important.

Are you suggesting that commercial shipping don't choose the best anchor they can? I'm prepared to believe it but I want to know why!
 
EDIT ---- AND I DO have all chain rode -65 mtrs of 10 mm stainless chain (Tested, certified etc) in the aft of the forepeak bunks (around 3.5 mts aft of the original allocation.---- along with 45 mtrs of 10mm galv HT in the midships bilge.. to a 25Kg delta... what more could a man want ??/ /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif - oh, and a 15kg DF.. an FX16 fortress, a bruce 15Kg... and a few grapnels...
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AND, I have 300 mtrs of back up line.. but of course !! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif not only for anchoring.... we use it for mooring, snubbers, quick fixes... towing.. anything...

Its not JUST the gun.. its also the GUNNER..... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Just because we're paranoid, doesn't mean the sea isn't out to get us- welcome to the club- all Crosby shackled of course????? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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commercial shipping don't choose the best anchor they can? I'm prepared to believe it but I want to know why!


[/ QUOTE ] I'm on slightly shaky ground here, but I thought most ships used variations on the Admiralty pattern anchors, rather than Danforths.

The Admiralty pattern has a fundamental defect - its fluke points are a distance apart (Danforth's are very close together). The distance apart means that when there is any slight inconsistency of holding between the two points or blades, the anchor will slew sideways, then roll out.

On a ship, this isn't too critical, since it's easy to compensate for anchor inefficiency with a much bigger anchor and more and bigger chain. Add to that the crew point - there's always an anchor watch - and it's easy to understand that anchor design isn't as important a factor on big ships.
 
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commercial shipping don't choose the best anchor they can? I'm prepared to believe it but I want to know why!


[/ QUOTE ] I'm on slightly shaky ground here, but I thought most ships used variations on the Admiralty pattern anchors,

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I'd never heard of APA's but acording to this site the APA is a Fisherman:

http://www.ukdivers.net/boats/anchors.htm
 
Looks like someone must have killed Craig Rocna /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
I find this plough anchor a little light weight, may be I should change to a chain rode?

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I find this plough anchor a little light weight, may be I should change to a chain rode?

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Yes, something in 18 rather than 22 carat gold, about 28cm long in 2mm, shackles to choice, made off around neck/ankle of significant other of choice with a gold 1.5mm bow shackle.

Bound to please, so to speak /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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