which cruiser

If I were you i'd add a few quid to your budget and get an S23:

Diesel
Decent accomodation/cabin for it's size
Practical galley (Decent sized gas cooker and big sink)
Hot Water
Heating (don't underestimate this feature!)
Fridge outside so you don't ruin the cabin
Heads you can actually use (well, I can fit in there fine and i'm 6 foot)
 
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I will definitely look at the S23, they look a nice boat but i will physically take a look at some when the weather is better one weekend.

What do you think about the costs on my post from yesterday that i have been quoted to get a boat in the water?
 
While I agree the Regal is a better quality boat, I would describe the Bayliner as built to a budget rather than cheap. Its still a really good boat sold at a decent price due to economy of scale by Brunswick.

For a boat somewhere between the 2, how about a Four Winns 248. After 2001 the cabins where upgraded and they have a nice flat bow and walk through windscreen for the locks. Decent size rear cabin and a heads that has a (just) usable shower. They are also towable.
 
russ said:
looked at Falcons on Boatshop24 but only seemed to have older models. Do they still make them?
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They haven't been made for some time, but still worth looking at. A good well made boat. And don't discount Bayliners, maybe not quite the quality of others but still good boats and excellent value.

That 24' Sealine on Ebay also looked good. Plenty of choice!
 
Just a small side drift......We have a Falcon 3000 in our marina, a '94 model with D31 Volvo's. Built by Global Yachts.
The question is, was/is Global Yachts a stand alone company, or associated with one of the major big 4 (Prin-Fair-Sun-Sea), which has been implied by the owner?
 
russ said:
Just had an email from a dealer selling the 245 and 2465 listing all the costs on top of the purchase price. Cant quite believe its going to cost me this much just to turn the key.
Two way lift and chock £265
Pressure wash £53
Engine survey £150
Hull survey £300
Engine service £420
Leg service £228
Re-anti foul £432
Machine polish/glaze etc £895
Cockpit clean £75
Engine/bilge clean £50
Acid treat leg/tabs £45
Safety cert £225
River license £297
Mooring £2247
Ins £250 up
Nearly £6000 plus the 15% vat.
I could buy a boat for that.
Guys is this taking the 'P**s or is this an annual cost i will have to pay? If so i think its all been just a dream.
HELP!:eek:
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Lift & Chock - applies only to the pre-purchase survey initially then every year if you take boat out of water.
Engine survey - applies only to pre-purchase survey - not annual.
Hull survey - ditto
Engine service - depending on hours run may be bi-annual.
Leg service - ditto
Safety Cert- lasts for a number of years AFAIK - not annual
Licence/Ins - yes, annual.
Mooring - yes, annual but there may well be cheaper alternatives.

Acid treat legs - AFAIK it's not necessary.

All other items are not essential and can be done by yourself if you can be bothered. The only one I'd get done by "the trade" would be the antifouling as it's a messy job. May not be necessary every year - ours lasts for 2 yrs.

There, that's suddenly made boating affordable for you.!!
 
Bear in mind if you do decide to keep the boat on the trailer a lot of those costs will dissappear.

No need to anti-foul, no costs for lift out/lift ins, no need to pressure wash the hull, no anodes to replace, in fact all you really have is the cost of servicing the engine and changing the oil in the leg, plus the river license and insurance. You will have to spend money servicing the trailer, but if you can do it yourself then its not expensive.

The only thing I would say though, is that launching and recovering that size of boat does require some work. You need a good slipway, a good carpark for the trailer and preferably a waiting pontoon that you can use. You need to decide who is going to be on the boat and who is going to be manouvering the car/ parking the trailer and then how you get the person who was driving the car back on the boat. If you can´t leave the trailer connected to the car, whoever does the parking has to be physically strong enough to unhitch the trailer (and who doesn´t go mentally blank when faced with this kind of challenge). Trust me, it can be very frustrating sitting on the boat watching your other half p*****g about in the car park with the sodding trailer. :D

And I wouldn´t worry about a petrol boat exploding. I know some people think they are like a hand-grenade with the pin removed, but as long as you are sensible you will be fine. That size of boat will drink petrol though.
 
russ said:
Cheers Guys.
I have considered the Sealine s23
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Great boat also comes under the name S230 and S240, Diesels will be quite rare. Great sea keeping and lots of interior space. We had one for a few years and towed it all around the Med with an Izuzu Trooper 3.1 and a Shogun 2.8, but on a trailor it's a HUGE, HEAVY boat and a really handful to launch/retreave. In the end we always had it craned in at £100 a shot. Also saves all that salt water getting into the wheel bearings, brakes, trailor parts etc
 
yep! a lot to think about. A little concerned about getting it on and off the trailer as it sounds that maybe a two handed job. I don't think the Mrs will be that helpful.
I guess if i can get into the water and moor up to a pontoon then park the truck up it should be possible?
It may well be worth the extra work as the amount of money saved as mentioned by Lovezoo.

Took a look at a Regal 2645 today which is slightly bigger but on the towing limit. Very nice boat with the D3 penta engine which the sales guy said was better than the KAD32?
Also a Doral 250se which was a little tatty.
 
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