Which 30' boat for liveaboard in the UK!

timmygobang said:
...and those people can be very happy, cheaper mooring, everything to hand, easy to manage :D
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Exactly why I suggested that Zagato needs to consider what he wants from the boat. Seems from what he has said he is looking for somewhere to live and not so interested in sailing the boat. So those features that you mention are less important. Going up a size increases living space significantly but is still manageable. Still not purpose designed for living on board permanently but arguably a better compromise.
 
Well this thread has served it's purpose in one way. My wife read it and realised how final it was all becoming and the consequences of seperating, especially for the children. She has actually opened up for once and we are going for a fresh start. We have only had two days off together in the last 10 years without the kids by ourselves and both of those involved sailing which she doesn't particulary like. Weeks of speculation and stress are finally over, it's a load of finally and it took the YBW marriage counselling forum to settle things - thanks for the replies folks.

Yes my sailing will never be very adventurous unfortunately due to sea sickness but it's not going to stop me. I'm looking forward to returning to trailer sailing and for longer passages I will have to sail with others so they can handle the boat whilst I have my head over the side.

Phew load off....................................
 
Zagato said:
Well this thread has served it's purpose in one way. My wife read it and realised how final it was all becoming and the consequences of seperating, especially for the children. She has actually opened up for once and we are going for a fresh start. We have only had two days off together in the last 10 years without the kids by ourselves and both of those involved sailing which she doesn't particulary like. Weeks of speculation and stress are finally over, it's a load of finally and it took the YBW marriage counselling forum to settle things - thanks for the replies folks.

Yes my sailing will never be very adventurous unfortunately due to sea sickness but it's not going to stop me. I'm looking forward to returning to trailer sailing and for longer passages I will have to sail with others so they can handle the boat whilst I have my head over the side.

Phew load off....................................
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There's only one thing better than a good boat and that's a good wife, both will look after you very well, however at 68 years old I am still puzzled over which costs the most!:)

good luck

Mike
 
+ to a Moody 33, loved mine, nearly took her round the world- would get another

aha, just read latest posts re staying together- good on you both.

Find an adventure that you and her could enjoy together- campervans? narrow boats? anyway, sounds like a second honeymoon is called for- how exciting!
 
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Zagato,

great news; most of my sailing these days is solo or with chums as SWMBO doesn't like it much and anyway can't leave her cat ( singular now sadly ) - on the upside I find people take more interest / pity in singlehanders so one gets chatting when a jolly crowd might just be left to do their own thing.
 
WestWittering said:
Loads of people live aboard at Chi with no problems at all. Remote & restricted? No idea what that is about. It is a lovely place to keep a boat & and there are two liveaboards on my pontoon alone. You could look at a Westerly Fulmar or a Corsair in that price bracket both nice boats with good accomodation and not full of condensation.
Di
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I think Chi Marina is relatively remote and restricted simply because there's not much within short walking distance and one is restricted to the chandlery, Spinnakers /expensive restaurant and maybe CYC.

Compared to say Emsworth Marina where a short very pleasant walk beside the mill pond leads straight into the town with lots of pubs & restaurants inc takeaways & excellent fish n chips, shops, hardware store, chandlery, rail station, banks & cashpoints, museum...
 
onesea said:
Very glad to hear it... You hear of so many well intended divorces going so so bad....
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+1

phanakapan said:
Find an adventure that you and her could enjoy together- campervans? narrow boats? anyway, sounds like a second honeymoon is called for- how exciting!
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+1

Tranona said:
A yacht that size is not designed for permanent living aboard, although people do live on them and on even smaller boats. (I spent a year living during the week on an old 26ft boat when I was younger). You have to adjust your lifestyle to fit what you have which typically means reducing your possessions to an absolute minimum and recognising that you have little space for visitors and your living space has to be multi purpose. Most important if you are going to live on a boat and follow any form of conventional working life is to find a berth that is walk ashore at all states of the tide and close to facilities such as toilets and showers.
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+1 All of which is why I suggested keeping present boat and buying a caravan, allot cheaper to buy allot easier to maintain. Keep your boat, it will be a welcome brake from the caravan!
 
Zagato - Glad to hear the positive outcome! Your marriage is probably fundamentally good, and you've just been through a rough patch. Keep up the positive thinking.

PuppySocks said:
My first suggestion do not even think about it, 5 years on and with me the **** is still flying. I am coming to the realization it will never get better.

Financially it crippled me I had to start again in my middle age, I had more money when I finished being a student. My career is near irrevocably crippled, I will have to work until I am physically no longer able. Then for a pension heaven knows!

I not so long ago finally managed to buy a house, (be careful here it can make getting a mortgage difficult). She now wants me back in court shortly as she again wants more money. That is not my caravan, I keep it just in case I have to move back in!
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PuppySocks - you have my EVERY sympathy! If it wasn't for my eight-year old son, I'd be living as far from this country as its possible to get on this planet. My ex launched a blitzkrieg of false allegations against me when I insisted on a divorce, and I then fought a colossal battle through the courts over the last 2-3 years in order to be able to see my son at all. I've now got equal contact and shared residency, but she continues her insurgency and ambushes and remains in contempt of court. (I'm currently preparing for yet another county court hearing tomorrow!)

Its unbelievably hard to stand by and watch your child being deliberately injured by dysfunction, blame and unnecessary involvement - against which the radical halving of my assets and earning-capacity, the near loss of my business and erosion of my self-esteem pales into insignificance.

But there's light still. I've had a marvellous new woman in my life for a year now, my relationship with my son is intact and very loving, and I'm back making a living and slowly paying off the debts of my huge legal costs. And I managed to keep the boat!
 
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Zagato said:
Well this thread has served it's purpose in one way. My wife read it and realised how final it was all becoming and the consequences of seperating, especially for the children. She has actually opened up for once and we are going for a fresh start. We have only had two days off together in the last 10 years without the kids by ourselves and both of those involved sailing which she doesn't particulary like. Weeks of speculation and stress are finally over, it's a load of finally and it took the YBW marriage counselling forum to settle things - thanks for the replies folks.

Yes my sailing will never be very adventurous unfortunately due to sea sickness but it's not going to stop me. I'm looking forward to returning to trailer sailing and for longer passages I will have to sail with others so they can handle the boat whilst I have my head over the side.

Phew load off....................................
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Glad you both worked through it, we've had our rough patches in 43 years as at last Thursday, I think everyone does, but if you keep talking problems through, and make regular time together as a couple, it helps a lot, particularly with a young Family.
Having met you all, albeit briefly, we hope you have a good few more visits to Wisley together.
You are welcome to collect another 12 months magazines anytime you are passing.
Also, Alice and I would be happy to let you crew for us- A has rules about November to March cruising these days , so I'm always pressganging victims, Oops, willing crew for the Club Weekend Rallies after Yule.
After our Baltic trip, we decided that long range two up trips are coming to an end, and the Boys have to find time off work, and our Rent-a- Crew pool keep getting enticed by Med and other exotic trips, just because it's warmer- wot's wrong with the Friesians in April;)
 
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Seajet said:
I think Chi Marina is relatively remote and restricted simply because there's not much within short walking distance and one is restricted to the chandlery, Spinnakers /expensive restaurant and maybe CYC.

Compared to say Emsworth Marina where a short very pleasant walk beside the mill pond leads straight into the town with lots of pubs & restaurants inc takeaways & excellent fish n chips, shops, hardware store, chandlery, rail station, banks & cashpoints, museum...
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Bit of a thread drift, but you are always slagging off Chichester Marina, yet by your own admission you haven't been here since Adam was a boy. Your knowledge of the facilities & shops, local hostelries & it's transport links are so out of date it is laughable. The country walk to Dell Quay, with views to die for, cycle straight into Chi on the Salterns Way or along the canal.

While I agree Emsworth is attractive, it's beauty is somewhat marred by its myriad of charity shops. It is very built up in comparison to Chichester Marina. So each to their own.

Di
 
For a start I have never slagged off Chi Marina, I don't know why you are so touchy about it - I have many happy memories there including a first girlfriend !

I haven't visited by boat for a few years but have by road now and again, not least to visit the excellent Chris for stainless fabrication work.

I am familiar with the walks inc to the pub on the main Witterings Road - not the ex- Black Horse, the one further away and to the South.

I just wouldn't want to be a liveaboard there, having tried that lifestyle albeit briefly, and Emsworth is hardly run down !
 
Seajet said:
I am familiar with the walks inc to the pub on the main Witterings Road - not the ex- Black Horse, the one further away and to the South.
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Ah yes - your infamous Black Horse Chinese Restaurant. The one to the South as you put it, has been a private house for the five years I have lived here.......

Di
 
I think the bit where they started talking was important.

Most relationships have problems. Early recognition is the key and that means talking. Leaving it builds up the anger.

Hope it works out.
 
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