Where to advertise boats for sale

Bigplumbs said:
Why are they con men.... Well because they give you a price then you take it to the Bloke in real life and the price becomes less.... Further the whole Get your price in 30 seconds is a total lie and a con.

Use them if you will
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Actually, lots of people with cars in good condition I have spoken to have got the price promised with no quibble, and been very happy with the price.
People who don’t take care of their car, and don’t notice the dented wheel rims, dented doors and grubby seats, tend to find the price gets reduced if they didn’t own up to these things in the first place. Many are blind to their bad treatment of their car and complain when this is pointed out.
Of course it is entirely optional - nobody forced to use these fast sell options, but nowadays so much competition they tend to be a credible and professional option. Particularly with people who would need to take time off work to sell a car privately.
 
dunedin said:
Actually, lots of people with cars in good condition I have spoken to have got the price promised with no quibble, and been very happy with the price.
People who don’t take care of their car, and don’t notice the dented wheel rims, dented doors and grubby seats, tend to find the price gets reduced if they didn’t own up to these things in the first place. Many are blind to their bad treatment of their car and complain when this is pointed out.
Of course it is entirely optional - nobody forced to use these fast sell options, but nowadays so much competition they tend to be a credible and professional option. Particularly with people who would need to take time off work to sell a car privately.
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Professional......... No way
 
Bigplumbs said:
Why are they con men.... Well because they give you a price then you take it to the Bloke in real life and the price becomes less.... Further the whole Get your price in 30 seconds is a total lie and a con.

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Bull. I had an X 60 that they gave me above market price for. Literally in 60 seconds.
 
julians said:
I think that the 'con' with we buy any car is that they try and chip the price down further by a few hundred quid from the price they originally offered ,when you actually bring the car in and they get to inspect it's actual condition.

Not a con as such IMO,but annoying none the less,but should be expected when selling a car to the trade.
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So you have agreed that they are NOT "con men" . So do you not think that the comment should be removed.
 
Nosealegsyet said:
Ill be quite blunt here I begrudge giving an agent 10 per cent to sell my boats, I would like to have a go at selling it myself, are there any sites guys were owners can advertise there boats for sale, as opposed to agents/brokers. thanks so much, Karen
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would you begrudge a broker being able to achieve a sale price 15-20% above what you would achieve privately?
 
Daydream believer said:
So you have agreed that they are NOT "con men" . So do you not think that the comment should be removed.
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Correct ,I never said they were con men or that the comment should be removed ,I was just speculating why someone else might refer to them as con men. The comment should stay imo, but I don't think they are con men.

Surely we can tolerate different opinions on here?
 
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Like any walk of life general comments are rarely accurate. Sure, some Brokers are pretty poor at what they do and sell despite their level of competence but others are very professional and deliver an excellent service, creating a deal and sometimes taking a hit on their commission to make it work. I have direct experience of this when the proactivity of the broker sold our boat in a market that was a whole lot slower than it is now and they made the numbers work to everyone’s satisfaction. Despite having sold four of our previous five boats privately I could not have done what they did.
 
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Nosealegsyet said:
No of course I wouldn't, but I dont believe that they would be able too .....Unless you can explain otherwise, why would they be able to get more money for the boat then I could myself?
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Arranging finance could be one aspect.

A good broker should give buyers confidence having got all the boats history, VAT status etc… sorted and evidenced before placing on the market.

Slick advertising with drone footage, expert on the market then explaining to punters why yours is worth x but another similar is worth y.

I’ve sold 3 boats in the past 4 years. 1 privately and 2 via broker. Pros and cons for sure both ways round. I think I got more genuine interest via a broker. Private is a lot of emailing / calls for no results
 
Nosealegsyet said:
No of course I wouldn't, but I dont believe that they would be able too .....Unless you can explain otherwise, why would they be able to get more money for the boat then I could myself?
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It can depend on the boat type and value. For a specialist and/or expensive boat, the right broker may already have a list of people seriously looking for that type of boat. This could get a better price through a specialist broker - eg for an HR, Najad, Arcona, X-Yacht etc
 
Nosealegsyet said:
No of course I wouldn't, but I dont believe that they would be able too .....Unless you can explain otherwise, why would they be able to get more money for the boat then I could myself?
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Well why dont you try and broker and see what happens, you have nothing to loose...

I am a broker, and have proven my theory correct many times over.

We are able to put your boat in front many more people than you, not just with the websites we use, but with our database of clients. We have clients walk in and phone everyday who are looking for a boat, which we add to our database.

Not only that, some buyers wouldn't consider a purchase without using a broker for the added benefits: client accounts, PI backed sales contracts, assistance with viewings, surveys & sea trial, advise on survey results, negotiations, professional conveyance, knowledge of local and international registration and VAT laws/ rules etc, post purchase support and after sales.
 
Nosealegsyet said:
No of course I wouldn't, but I dont believe that they would be able too .....Unless you can explain otherwise, why would they be able to get more money for the boat then I could myself?
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A boat does not have a fixed value. A broker knows what similar boats have actually sold for and what the potential market is. Key to getting interest is well presented listing placed in front of the maximum possible audience. Handling enquiries, weeding out the chancers, homing in on the best possible purchasers and getting the sale to completion. Many buyers prefer to deal with a professional broker rather than a private person as it gives them confidence that the boat is legit, has proper paperwork and the money side will be secure.

Brokers exist because they provide a service valued by buyers and sellers, just like car dealers - private car sales prices are almost always less than dealers prices because of the extra service provided by dealers - not quite the same, but brokers' "cut" is also far less than dealers markups and reflects the value they add to the transaction for both parties. Think also about houses - vast majority of house transactions go through agents for the same reason boats are sold through brokers. No compulsion to use them but most do.
 
Ebay as classified - Gives a good market coverage,
FB Free and gives further coverage,
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Be ready for stupid questions, dreamers, swaps and other strange offers. However I have bought and sold boats this way ver the years and have never felt robbed.

The broker we used to buy just made survey and paperwork easier…
It all depends on the condition and value of the boat.
 
Tranona said:
Brokers exist because they provide a service valued by buyers and sellers, just like car dealers - private car sales prices are almost always less than dealers prices because of the extra service provided by dealers - not quite the same, but brokers' "cut" is also far less than dealers markups and reflects the value they add to the transaction for both parties. Think also about houses - vast majority of house transactions go through agents for the same reason boats are sold through brokers. No compulsion to use them but most do.
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Not even REMOTELY the same.

A broker is a “middle man” they take a commission and merely “broker” the sale, they don’t service or prepare the boat and they do not have to give any warranty as to the “quality” of the goods, their fitness for purpose and so on.

A car dealer buys the car, services and prepares it for sale and then has to warrant the goods as free from defect for at least 6 months - usually far longer.

And given a car dealers “mark up” is around £600 -£1000 in the current climate - good luck finding a broker whose “cut” is less than a car dealers margin!

Sorry but there was nothing correct about that comment!
 
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