Where have I gone wrong?

peterandjeanette

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Having just returned from an enjoyable week in Mallorca perhaps I'm feeling rather pi**ed off with this weather. But, I was staying within walking distance of Porto Portals and inevitably spent several days watching, walking and drinking around the marina.

One thought always kept returning. Who can afford the big 100+ footers that are parked on the one end, where even a Princess 22M looks as if it should be hanging in the davits? It's not only the one off purchase price of 5,6,7 or 8 million, but the berthing, crewing, fuelling, maintaining etc. of these monsters. Quite a large ongoing cost. A big win on the lottery may buy one, but how do you keep it running. I accept the fact that I do not have the feet of Rooney/Beckham, the voice of Robbie Williams/Will Young or the hands of Schumacher/Mansell, but surely they can't all belong to such famous people.

Perhaps its the fact that I pay income tax, national insurance, VAT, fuel tax, council tax, road tax etc. that I can't afford such vessels. Maybe they are company owned boats. But then my company pays corporation tax, national insurance, obeys minimum wage requirements/working time directives, pays SSP,SMP,SPP. Follows religiously the requirements of the factory inspector, lifting tackle inspector,VAT inspector,PAYE inspector, pollution control regulations, ISO 9000. ISO 14001 and every other demand from London/Brussels, like the good little boys that we are in the UK, to reduce any profit that we may make but are not allowed to keep.

Once the San Miguel takes effect I begin to mellow. Would I want a skipper and crew to play with my boat? Don't I want to be the guy at the helm all the time. Show my ability (or lack of it) when coming into port. To have the fun of passage planning, checking the weather, plotting waypoints into the GPS, drawing little lines on my chart and all the little jobs that make boating such fun. Even the cleaning down gives me pleasure. (By now I'm onto the champagne cocktails.)

No, you can keep the Ferretti, the Mochi, the Sunseeker 105 I'll stick to the small Sealine, Fairline, Princess that I'm comfortable with.

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You have probably answered your own question when you mentioned the famous names. When you earn money like Beckham, Rooney, Schumacker, Woods - just think of anyone at the top of their sport or pop status (and there are loads!!) and you will almost certainly find yourself thinking of a luxury motor yacht owner. Maybe they even have two or three.

I met up with two hairdressers in S. France some years back - it so happened they were a husband & wife team that were (are) hairdresssers to the stars. They had one such beast - and they're bloody hairdressers for goodness sakes!!

Your biog states that you are directors of an industrial company (and good on yer for that) but that probably provides the 2nd answer to the same question.

I trust you had a good holiday nonetheless :)

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I know what you mean tho, it's hard enough to find the few grand to keep a 20 odd foot mobo in the water each year without worrying/sacrificing/borrowing especially if you're an honest taxpayer. After I've funded the theiving b*st*rds in this goverment I'm left with very little & the more I try to earn the more they take & I seem to end up with the same. As for a pension.........

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About 15 years ago my old man was a liveaboard in the Club de Mar in Palma and scratched a living repairing other people's boats in the marina. His observation was that most of the big gin palaces were owned by oil sheiks or their relatives and millionaires, and more recently russian businessmen were much in evidence. So you are certainly never going to own one if you are a PAYE taxpayer like me. But I take comfort in my observation that there is an inverse relationship between the size of the boat and the amount of use it gets....Now where is that lottery ticket?

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Once again the Job syndrome I am afraid. "Just Over Broke" its where they would all rather have us. :eek:))
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"After I've funded the theiving b*st*rds in this goverment I'm left with very little"

Thieving bastards?? Hmmm. Lets say we scrap all tax. Then what?

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Ooooooooo life is so unfair.

If you are unable to afford a fine expensive boat in a posh upmarket foreign marina ,do want the rest of us do.
Trust me,a bit of brown nosing and crawling can get you aboard some very nice boats./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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What then? They will have to economise, budget, give value for money, reduce waste etc. like the rest of us have had to do over the previous years or go bust.

I don't mind paying my fair share, but when I work an average of 60 hours per week in a factory in the middle of Birmingham, I do object to the waste of my tax money by various governments. e.g. to fund projects that export manufacturing jobs abroad.

Don't get me going. Kim would have a field day!!

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No, that's not my point at all. If you read the other posts it's more relating to what the government do with the funds in relation to what the taxpayer expects (within reason, granted) rather than wasting it. The current exposure of MPs expenses is part of the problem. We really don't have any say/control in the right areas I feel.

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So sacking 100,000 civil servants isn't good enough? I'd love to hear the details of this project that's been set up to move jobs abroad, would you care to disclose?

I was more objecting to the "thieving b*****s", we pay tax for a reason, and anyone who doesn't want to pay, can quite frankly leave behind everything they've earnt or bought (you can't go to work without a road) and sod off!

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No need raise the temp.

Everyone has the right to whinge and good on them,but the fact is only folks with an axe to grind will bother to grab the keyboard and express the fact they feel they are losing ground as the world moves on..
The folks who feel they are doing well,remain quiet and will express their views in a less strident manner in a few months time.The result prob. will annoy many./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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Hi

the government and their various minions persist in ways that cause people to 'lock up shop' and care only for themselves and this seems to be the message they unwittingly send out and more people seem to follow

To be honest i have no interest in politics on any level im far too intelligent to waste my time worrying about something that is a minority sport.

'Trample the weak and grab what you can' seems to be the result of local government, central government and councils messing about and their wasteful ways

To be honest the type of people who want to be in politics and /or civil servants of any kind are exactly the ones you wouldnt want doing the job!

I agree with however said they want to keep people just above the breadline beacuse as people climb higher the governments power begins to fall by equal measure


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