Where can I get fleece trousers?

As per others craghoppers do a fleece lined trouser and Rohan used to do hot bags and the fleece lining is even thicker. I have tended recently to go for layers and wonder if a lined boiler suit would be good under the oil skins.
 
On the layers topic; I read a long time ago (I was still in the Army so pre 1990) that 5 layers was the maximum you should use. After that you get little benefit and it tends to be cumbersome.

I suppose modern materials mean you could probably wear more with being encumbered, whether you get any gain or not I'll leave to those who've tried it.
 
The winter this year has been mild, i do a lot of roofing so outdoors in all weathers. When its seriously cold i put on my crewsaver thermal onesie that came with my drysuit, i think its been used for 3 days this year. I cant use wool as i have an allergy to it so has to be manmade stuff.
 
On the layers topic; I read a long time ago (I was still in the Army so pre 1990) that 5 layers was the maximum you should use. After that you get little benefit and it tends to be cumbersome.

I suppose modern materials mean you could probably wear more with being encumbered, whether you get any gain or not I'll leave to those who've tried it.

Five layers would be the limit for me and that would be on my top half. Cotton undies plus 4 layers lower half. After that I think mobility would be seriously compromised and I think you would struggle to get them on.
I don't do serious cold... -2*C would be about the coldest I would find myself sailing in.
Rig of the day would typically be upper body ... 2 x 200g merino, 1 x 260g merino, a jacket similar to this https://www.kathmandu.com.au/mens/j...ece-jackets/disperse-men-s-fleece-jacket.html and then depending on conditions my Gill OS2 jacket. Mixing and matching depending on the day.
Ditto 3 pairs of gloves, a pair of Canadian 'Watson' waterproof ones for handling lines in the morning. Warm and never quite dry enough day gloves - I'm lusting after a pair of these from The Heat Company https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/prod...company_674633133_shell_smart_glove_size.html, and NZ possum wool for evening wear.

Boots.... Polar Sport for cold and wet, Uggboots for when it is just cold..... no socks required with either.
 
And another vote for Frank's choice - this for UGG boots, because it is seldom wet we wear them most of the time in winter (no socks). Their only down side is if the deck is wet - their non-slip characteristics are poor (less of an issue on a cat). We have coated one set with a clear silicone - which works well. Ours are not genuine UGGs - some might have better soles

If your feet, hands and head are cold - your body will also be cold. Getting decent trousers is only part of the issue - you need something to keep the extremities warm as well.

Another morning when the Bureau advises us it feels like 8 degrees, not sure how Frank stands -2 (which possibly feels like - 10. (But it should warm to a balmy 20 :) )

Jonathan
 
.....Ours are not genuine UGGs - some might have better soles.......

Jonathan

Ah, but what is a genuine Ugg? Some US company bought the name from a snake oil salesman in 'straya.... they were probably offered the Harbour Bridge for a good price at the same time....
Bit like buying the rights to 'boomerang'...

Anyway I believe they - the US coy - now sell chinese manufactured uggs under the Ugg Australia brand.... and most of the unbranded stuff out there is now also chinese made.

I bought mine from the only true Australian manufacturer left https://www.australianuggboots.com.au/en-au/company/about-us ( well there are half a dozen or so who make that claim :) ) and even they say they have to import the soles from China as no one makes such a thing in Australia any more.

Mine are OK on deck but I have Treadmaster.. that may make a difference.

A glove review here https://shuttermuse.com/photography-gloves/

-2º C is fine if it is dry and calmish.... 10ºC with rain and wind is far worse and finding a glove that is both windproof and waterproof is a never ending quest..
 
Perhaps forum members will remember the Javelin brand of thermal kit, the trousers I still have -only used a couple of times but worth keeping. I believe the company still exist but now deal in horsey paraphernalia, probably under a new company name.
The trousers are worn beneath wetties thereby staying dry and very warm!

ianat182
 
Yes and great adverts too
Perhaps forum members will remember the Javelin brand of thermal kit, the trousers I still have -only used a couple of times but worth keeping. I believe the company still exist but now deal in horsey paraphernalia, probably under a new company name.
The trousers are worn beneath wetties thereby staying dry and very warm!

ianat182
 
Lidl thermal long johns as a base layer, Asda fleece jogging bottoms with Trespass ski pants over that are enough for most circumstances. If it’s wet as well as cold, then the Gill salopettes go on as the final layer. Mountain Warehouse thermal socks keep the feet toasty inside wellies.

I also use the same set up for coxing gig training crews: the only problem there is remembering not to finish getting kitted up until the boat is on the beach ready to launch. You can work up a rare sweat getting the boat out of the shed and down to the beach.
 
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