jimi
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So I can avoid being caught with red stuff?
where can i get blue dye for diesel?
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michael_w
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At the hairdresser, where you go for your weekly blue rinse. 
Skylark
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There's never an Alchemist when you need one. Or is it a magician? How do you make red dye disappear?
Tranona
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Who is going to "catch" you? Perfectly legal to use red in your boat if you can show you have paid duty on it by keeping the receipts.
Daydream believer
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Actually the problem overseas is that you have not paid the full tax on red derv
So what if you went to the marina & when you paid for the fuel you paid them the additional tax - ie at the white fuel rate
If they gave you the receipt showing extra VAT then the reason for the problem would be negated
Surely the problem the other countries have is not the colour but the tax
The colour says you have not paid full tax but if you could prove you had then where would they stand
Sorry i suppose we should be in the red derv forum
So what if you went to the marina & when you paid for the fuel you paid them the additional tax - ie at the white fuel rate
If they gave you the receipt showing extra VAT then the reason for the problem would be negated
Surely the problem the other countries have is not the colour but the tax
The colour says you have not paid full tax but if you could prove you had then where would they stand
Sorry i suppose we should be in the red derv forum
awol
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IIRC the colour doesn't matter, it's the fact that it is dyed at all that the excise will regard as dodgy and indicative of less than the full tax burden having been discharged. I have noticed that 2-stroke oil contains a dye that makes it very evident when it has been added to petrol so perhaps a cup or two into your diesel might do it and lubricate your injector pump and up the cetane rating into the bargain.
I have some tartan dye you could try.
I have some tartan dye you could try.
Tranona
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Subject has been done to death. Current situation is that other countries (with the possible exception of Belgium) accept red in British boats provided you have a current receipt. Belgium in theory issues fines, but in practice does not seem to enforce it.
May, of course all change in the future depending on the decision of the European Commission if they rule against HMGs position.
Mistroma
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I thought so too and wondered why Irish diesel was rarely thought to be a problem simply because it was a different colour.
I haven't seen tartan dye for about 30 years now. It was an ICI speciality.
jimi
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Thank you for your kind words. If you look at my location you will see Belgium is my nearest foreign country so whilst the subject may be irrelevant to you, it is not to me!
Cookee
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You can't get rid of it - that's the idea of it!
sailorman
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Full duty paid red is much the same price of white on a forecourt, where`s the problem.
Well apart from most Garages will limit you to a few Lts in a can. if you have probs let Gus Lewis of the RYA.
maby
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The problem is a combination of pig-headedness on all sides and the way the EU legislation is worded - the EU rules theoretically make it illegal for private individuals to use marked fuel irrespective of whether on not tax has been paid. So far, only the Belgians have tried to enforce the rules against UK sailors and they seem to have agreed to back off, at least for the time being.
jimi
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My tank holds 182 litres .. thats the problem
Tranona
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Think you will find there is no evidence of Belgium actually fining any British yachts for having red in their tanks, but you can check with Gus Lewis of the RYA for the latest position.
[70521]
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Earns the legal profession a lot of money.
WF36
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sailorman
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mine 140 now 20% full
Cloven
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Add blue dye to red diesel and you'll be marooned !!
sailorman
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As long as 100% duty paid, so you may as well have white as similar cost
