When does a AWB become a MAB

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Just wondering? My last boat (still for sale) was a MAB, 40 + years old heavy built not to good to windward. Cracking looker no short on standing head room and no hot running water etc...

"New" boat is 30 years old fin keel light weight and kind of nippy.

She does not have Sugar scoop stern, single line reefing, fridge hot and cold running water... She's an old 3/4 tonner...

Just Curious...
 
rtboss1 said:
I don't know if you know what you are taking about. but IMUHO Bavaria`s are very good boats
And I don`t own one
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It's forum tradition to Bavaria bash, it always gets out of hand and ends up with 10 page thread about one rare occasion when a keel fell off and another where the thing imploded as something went wrong with the rigging. :p
 
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Somebody would have said something eventually, might as well have been me. I can't think of a boat that is difficult to classify. There must be a formula involving beam at the transom, freeboard and waterline length.
 
Good question.
High-volume production plastics are (to me ) AWBs, and elderly classic, probably wooden, boats are MABs but I would fell a bit pissed off if I'd just spent millions on restoring a fifer to have it called a manky auld boat.
Could a Jenbenbav ever become a MAB? I suspect here is an "old school tie" attitude to this genre which would tend to exclude..
Something that had "character" and "quality" but was beginning to show its age is what MAB says to me, but it would probably need to be owned by a manky auld b@5turd to properly qualify.
 
Well!

Billjratt said:
manky auld b@5turd
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Mine is a LAB (little auld boat).

Owned by a OGOS (occasional grumpy old sod).

But I do have to confess that I find it funny when one of the aforementioned (MAB’s) ‘goes off on one’ …… it’s that funny we talk about it for many years after. :rolleyes:
As long as you have the character not to take offence it’s quite entertaining. :D:D:D
 
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WilliamUK said:
Are us newbies going to be left in the dark or does some kind soul fancy telling us what the acronyms mean? :p
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Average White Boat - just another identical white plastic lozenge with navy blue stackpack and roller genoa. Looks shiny at first, but turns out to be flimsy and not cope well with bad weather. Interior looks like the show home for a loft-living development, but as soon as the wind picks up you fall across the acres of laminate flooring and smash the chipboard galley lockers.

The alternative is a Manky Auld Boat - thirty years old, heavy, built strictly for sailing with onboard life an afterthought. Can look nice from the outside, but the inside is a damp hole complete with decades of questionable DIY modifications and a stink of spilled diesel and mildew that will cause instant seasickness even at its drying mooring (this boat probably doesn't do marinas). The galley is well suited to heating up tins of stew during a three-day gale, but there's no door to the toilet.

Both terms are stereotypes, with some bits based on a grain of truth and others merely prejudice. Don't take either too seriously :-)

Pete

(To anyone wondering about deja vue, yes this is a copy of a previous post of mine :) )
 
wklein said:
If its a bavaria about 6 years.
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No - 3 years. The same time scale they replace the Audi with the latest model.

Actually I'm not sure that Bavs et al ever become MABs which by definition are solid and heavy boats of little performance. Usually British made. I reckon that Bavs become simply old bangers just like Renault cars can never become classic cars.

:D That should start some discussion.
 
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