What's wrong with this advertisement?

[dancrane]

It seems to be a pretty good piece of kit...a 12.5kw Honda diesel 'silent' generator, said to be "brand new". What would you expect to pay for that? So would I...

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/b...-generator-three-phase-07766377619/1036992789

Why's this so cheap? Is it actually made by Kia, with 'Honda' printed on as an afterthought? Or is it maybe 1.25kw, not 12.5? Or might the seller be a bit shady?

I didn't know Honda made a diesel genset of that size. I can't see a model number anywhere on it, either. Looks odd to me.

 

[padge]

it looks like a "re badged" hyundai

http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-369803/hyundai-dhy6000selr.html?gclid=COKs-JvR3boCFebMtAodMBkA3Q

and silent it ain't

Price is good though !!

 

[dancrane]

it looks like a "re badged" hyundai

http://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-369803/hyundai-dhy6000selr.html?gclid=COKs-JvR3boCFebMtAodMBkA3Q

and silent it ain't...Price is good though !!

Hmm...very odd though isn't it? This "Honda" is much, much bigger, and I haven't found any Honda diesel generators on the internet. What can this curious bargain be?

 

[padge]

I figured out the dodgy figures - 4Kw x 3 phase equals 12Kw right


it is a "re-badge"

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BDE6700T3-6-3KVA-THREE-PHASE-2-1-KVA-SINGLE-PHASE-DIESEL-GENERATOR-/300661222721?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Tools_Generators_ET&hash=item4600ce2d41

These people are genuine I've bought a genny from them before and it worked fine as standby for the house.

 

[Bilgediver]

Hmm...very odd though isn't it? This "Honda" is much, much bigger, and I haven't found any Honda diesel generators on the internet. What can this curious bargain be?

Possibly something like this....WHich is only 5Kw?????????????


Maybe never the inside of a Honda Factory........Kipoor????


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-0Kw-Sil...trial_Tools_Generators_ET&hash=item4d14e66a61

 

[dancrane]

Sorry chaps, I'm not sure what nature of mischief has taken place here. Plainly this Honda isn't a Honda...but it also isn't 12.5kw?

Regardless of how good & reliable the generator is mechanically (whatever its rating), how trustworthy can the seller be if both the manufacturer & output are shrouded in mystery?

 

[claudio]

Be careful with Chinese specs, most of the time they quote MAX not continuous, when the ad says it can run for 12 hours continuous, it doesn't neccesarrily mean at rated power, in fact it does not mention at what power, it could mean at idle.

Funny specs to be taken with a pinch of salt

• Type: 4 stroke, single cylinder, air cooled, direct injection diesel engine
• Max power (kW/rpm): 12.5

Single cylinder = Very Noisy
Max power - ask what continuous power is, I would guess around 2-3kw if lucky

16 litre tank, so at 12.5Kw how many hours does that last ?

 

[zikzik]

Nor is it diesel probably. 4kva petrol Honda fake? The panel on these pics has a very Chinese look. Defo dodgy!

 

[Gwylan]

16 litres for 12 hours operation and 12,5 kw? I think not somehow.
Or we should be building power stations using them.

 

[mikemanor]

The mobile phone number is that of a Garage business in Brentford. They have other generators for sale on Gumtree as well.

http://www.perfectautoservices.co.uk/

 

[dancrane]

Hmm...one wonders why legitimate British mechanics would advertise a product with a false, borrowed name, and include in the description blatant untruths about its output.

 

[Bertramdriver]

One for Trading Standards perhaps? If it's used seriously then it's a Health and Safety risk.

 

[rob2]

I can't see the justification for claiming a "Elf'n Safety" risk...? It is quite normal for a product containing a Honda engine to have the Honda name on the casing and I assume this is what this is. The fact that the seller has cut and paste the less than helpful spec from the manufacturer is unfortunate, but doesn't neccessarily reflect too badly on the actual product. That said, I don't think my dinghy will get 170kg of gennie out to the mooring...

Rob.

 

[dancrane]

I just found this vid, of a big Honda 'silent' diesel generator. Fast-forward to the two-minute mark, to see just how 'silent' it really is... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VimAdVVKx60