What's the point of a 200' superyacht

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MapisM

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Yeah, I know. Jacuzzi, gym, massage, onboard chef, and many other amenities.
Not saying that I dislike all that, but when you're cruising around some of the nicest Med bays and you must anchor a quarter of a mile offshore, 'cause you can't get anywhere near the heart of the scenery, all those toys are put in perspective.
We spent a day anchored in the same spot with this gorgeous vessel, and it felt like we had the front row seats, while they had to use binoculars to see the show... :)
 
Having been involved in the industry for a few years now I have come to the conclusion that anything to do with superyachts and that's mostly power although the same can be said for sail is .....

Because you can.

It's as simple as that.

One thing that is misunderstood is that many large yachts do have motivated owners that do use and care for them.
 
LOL, apolologies, but that song sprung to my mind while I had a look on the web for more details on that ship (www.bleu-de-nimes.com).
I think it's appropriate for a vessel originally built for the RN, with such rugged look, and now fitted with the classic interiors visible on the above website... :)
 
MapisM said:
Yeah, I know. Jacuzzi, gym, massage, onboard chef, and many other amenities.
Not saying that I dislike all that, but when you're cruising around some of the nicest Med bays and you must anchor a quarter of a mile offshore, 'cause you can't get anywhere near the heart of the scenery, all those toys are put in perspective.
We spent a day anchored in the same spot with this gorgeous vessel, and it felt like we had the front row seats, while they had to use binoculars to see the show... :)
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It must be awful to have to get in your £500k tender and be driven ashore or in dire emergencies there is always the helicopter.

What a bore
 
In about 30 years of having decent sized boats, I never yerned for anything bigger or better than my P35. The thought of crew aboard, or mostly other people, would be a downer.

Bear in mind that a P35 is nearer 40FT, It is just right for two, with loads of comfort. You can lay down most any place.

Apart from the welcome visitors, I would not want other folk aboard and could not stand longer than say four hours to the CI,s or where ever.

So no, I would never have wanted a bigger boat.
 
I came to the ame conclusion when cruising the Med, I only had 34' so a bit bigger would have been nicer but a few times we saw some mega yachts and as we sat out on my little boat I couldn't help but think that guy has paid a few million more than me but we both get to watch the same sunset.

I am sure most of us could easily spend a couple of million on the ultimate version of whatever type of boat turns us on, but once you go above 24m I suspect its like being a guest on your own cruise liner. The last thing I would want to worry about when on a boat is managing staff.

Be nice to try it for a week or two though just to test the theory...

Anthont
 
That yacht in the video looks about 30m rather than 200ft. The point is such vessels are what some folks choose, a private cruising experience to visit amazing destinations without having any stress and not having to manage or worry about any of it. Serious chill out time. Good luck to them.

It's "private cruising" rather than "boating"
 
To help businesses like mine grow ?

They (30m + yachts) always want good products delivered quickly. Many seem to be investments making a good return on charter income and they work them quite hard.
 
Anthony said:
I couldn't help but think that guy has paid a few million more than me but we both get to watch the same sunset.
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Precisely. And in some cases, it's even worse: the video doesn't give the bay justice, but the difference with the spot which we've been able to reach and the one where they had to stay is like day and night.
We had luch surrounded by a natural scenario which is second to none, whilst they had to look at that from a distance, jumping in a tender to come near the coast for a decent swim...
 
oceanfroggie said:
That yacht in the video looks about 30m rather than 200ft.
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I don't think so.
Yep, I rounded the exact LOA, but 193' vs. 200' doesn't make such a big difference, does it?
Just have a look at the website which I linked previously.
You don't get TWELVE THOUSANDS nm range on a 30m boat...!
Actually, that's pretty rare also on 60m boats.
When seen in flesh, it's a massive vessel. Maybe the clip doesn't give a proper idea of the proportions.
 
You obviously don't know my SWMBO. She thinks no boat we've had has ever been big enough and to an extent, I think she's right. To be truly comfortable living on a boat, IMHO you need the same kind of size of living spaces as you get in a house. Let's face it, even on a big boat like say, a 70 footer, the living spaces are tiny in comparison, especially in the sleeping cabins. For sure, if I had the money, I'd have a much bigger boat. Who cares if you can't anchor close to the shore with the rest of the hoi polloi? I don't
 
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Who cares if you can't anchor close to the shore with the rest of the hoi polloi? I don't
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Naah, I'm sure you actually do.
Whenever given the choice, you surely drop the hook as close to the shore as possible also when the sea is completely flat, don't you?
There must be a reason.
In fact, also superyacht guests come to swim ashore with the hoi polloi, they just must use a tender to reach the coast. And I can't see what that adds to the pleasure: give me the option of jumping in the water from the mother ship, returning directly onboard for a shower and a drink, anytime.

SWMBO's argument is another story, of course.
Hard to argue with that, but I'd suggest to show her a big boat at some boat show, specifying before the tour that since you don't want to deal with crew, she should think in advance of what it would take to keep clean the whole thing... :)
 
MapisM said:
Naah, I'm sure you actually do.
Whenever given the choice, you surely drop the hook as close to the shore as possible also when the sea is completely flat, don't you?
There must be a reason.
In fact, also superyacht guests come to swim ashore with the hoi polloi, they just must use a tender to reach the coast. And I can't see what that adds to the pleasure: give me the option of jumping in the water from the mother ship, returning directly onboard for a shower and a drink, anytime.

SWMBO's argument is another story, of course.
Hard to argue with that, but I'd suggest to show her a big boat at some boat show, specifying before the tour that since you don't want to deal with crew, she should think in advance of what it would take to keep clean the whole thing... :)
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The Answer is what a few guys down here have. A 50m Superyacht and a V65! They get the crew to bash ahead on their summer cruise in the V65 so that when they arrive in the nice areas and bays they transfer and get close to the beach. Then they return to mothership for evening and back to big harbours of the Balearics. They started out with a Sunseeker 43 as a support boat but found it too small...the V65 seems amazing when moored up with all the mothership toys as well. A V65 can also go all over the med infront of them and allows them to have more Crew!
 
Whenever given the choice, you surely drop the hook as close to the shore as possible also when the sea is completely flat, don't you?
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No, why? I don't want to be cheek by jowl with other boats and I don't want to be stared at by people on the beach


she should think in advance of what it would take to keep clean the whole thing... :)
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Do you really think my SWMBO cleans the boat or our house for that matter:):):)
 
I'm with MapisM on this - I want the ability to anchor close to shore and swim in 4m of turquoise water returning to the mother ship afterwards, and the inability to get a mega yacht close in is a serious downside to them which their owners often realise. There are upsides of course, and all boating as we know is about compromises.

There are other (crewing) issues when you exceed 24m too, and so imho 24m or thereabouts is a very handy perfect compromise size for Med boating and I dont think I'd want to exceed it. Even Deleted User's SWMBO must be ok with a 5.5m x 3.5m cabin? :)

Actually I found that even 24m, pretty small compared to superyachts, made for some inability to get close enough to the shore when boating last summer, eg the calas in Menorca so the anchoring compromise is starting to bite even at that smallish size

One thing with superyachts is the daredevil-ness of captain and owner. Many captains won't go near grounding those things, and the owners just obey. Perhaps like MapisM's video? But if you get a pair of daredevils (owner plus captain) you can see some fun being had. Craig McCaw used to love getting his superyachts right up to the beach and used to say "go on go on!" to his captain, and one time bust his airco becuase the keel was so close to the sand that the inlet sucked up a sand/water mix becuase his keel was so close to the sand it agitated it into suspension. His captain (still in the industry, so I wont mention his name, but a good friend of mine) is a star and shares the same thinking, so together they got those 60metre jobs (like Calixe) right up close to the beaches in some fabulous spots
 
Chumley said:
Something like this perhaps? She was taking up most of Trogir the other week and completely spoiling the view from the town quay.

http://www.superyachts.com/motor-yacht-4690/sequel-p-photos.htm

Nice cabins though.
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We were berthed in Yachtclub Seget for a night a couple of weeks ago and I think I saw that trickling past into Trogir. Yup thats the kind of thing my SWMBO would consider adequate. Shame that my bank account isn't similarly adequate:)
 
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