muckypup
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Whats the difference between a Broom 37 Ocean, Continental and Crown. I can see different internal layouts, but is that it? Do they have the same hull etc?
Steve
Steve
Whats the difference between a Broom?
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miket
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All the same hull.
Broom 37 Continental - early to late 70's, full width rear cabin with command bridge. Engines Perkins HT 6354, 145hp each, max speed 14/15 kts, cruise 10/12 kts.
Broom Ocean 37 - early 70's to early 80's, no full width rear cabin but still command bridge. Engines Perkins HT 6354 145hp, then 175hp and finally Perkins Range 4 which were I think 150hp. Speed max 18kts cruise 14kts
The Crown took over from the Continental - late 70's to early 80's with full width rear and forward cabin plus Command bridge. Early models had Perkins HT 6354 175hp, and post 1980 Volvo TMD40 140hp. Max speed 18 kts, cruise 14kts.
All were excellent boats, as are all Brooms (but I am biased) but this hull had a reputation for being very soft riding but rather wet!! Semi-displacement.
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Broom 37 Continental - early to late 70's, full width rear cabin with command bridge. Engines Perkins HT 6354, 145hp each, max speed 14/15 kts, cruise 10/12 kts.
Broom Ocean 37 - early 70's to early 80's, no full width rear cabin but still command bridge. Engines Perkins HT 6354 145hp, then 175hp and finally Perkins Range 4 which were I think 150hp. Speed max 18kts cruise 14kts
The Crown took over from the Continental - late 70's to early 80's with full width rear and forward cabin plus Command bridge. Early models had Perkins HT 6354 175hp, and post 1980 Volvo TMD40 140hp. Max speed 18 kts, cruise 14kts.
All were excellent boats, as are all Brooms (but I am biased) but this hull had a reputation for being very soft riding but rather wet!! Semi-displacement.
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muckypup
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this hull had a reputation for being very soft riding
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What do you mean by soft riding?
Steve
this hull had a reputation for being very soft riding
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What do you mean by soft riding?
Steve
andylink
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Broom 37 Continental
Built from 1968 to 1978 (approx)
Approx numbers built - 190
Mainly twin Perkins HT6354's @ 145hp
No double berths, all singles including in owners cabin
Broom Ocean 37
Built 1969 - 1983 (approx)
Approx numbers built - 157
Mainly twin Perkins HT6354's @ 145hp
Originally no double berths, all singles including in owners cabin although some have been converted to a single and one double in aft cabin
Broom 37 Crown
Built 1978 - 1988 (approx)
Approx numbers built 83
Perkins 145 or uprated to 185hp's then Volvos after about 1980
This time with double island berth in aft cabin and seperate shower room in addition to the ensuite head.
Continental and Ocean based on same hull but different superstructure and internal layout although all three are full beam aft cabin cruisers.
Due to the hull being semi-displacement you get much less slamming especially in a head sea than you would on a deep 'V' hull, e.g. a softer ride
Hope this helps
Andy Calderbank-Link
Broom Delivery Skipper
Broom Sales
Built from 1968 to 1978 (approx)
Approx numbers built - 190
Mainly twin Perkins HT6354's @ 145hp
No double berths, all singles including in owners cabin
Broom Ocean 37
Built 1969 - 1983 (approx)
Approx numbers built - 157
Mainly twin Perkins HT6354's @ 145hp
Originally no double berths, all singles including in owners cabin although some have been converted to a single and one double in aft cabin
Broom 37 Crown
Built 1978 - 1988 (approx)
Approx numbers built 83
Perkins 145 or uprated to 185hp's then Volvos after about 1980
This time with double island berth in aft cabin and seperate shower room in addition to the ensuite head.
Continental and Ocean based on same hull but different superstructure and internal layout although all three are full beam aft cabin cruisers.
Due to the hull being semi-displacement you get much less slamming especially in a head sea than you would on a deep 'V' hull, e.g. a softer ride
Hope this helps
Andy Calderbank-Link
Broom Delivery Skipper
Broom Sales
boatone
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Bloody hell Andy.......have you just been sitting there waiting for a post like this to lose your forum virginity !! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
andylink
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Ha Ha. I don't usually have time to post but deliveries slowing up at the moment. Traditional rush of boats to deliver before Christmas is looming around the corner ;-)
Hope the above post was of some use.
Andy
Hope the above post was of some use.
Andy
muckypup
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It was, thanks.
Steve
Steve
Renegade_Master
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No one has yet mentioned that the Continental & Croon were fitted out by Broom, but (I stand to becorrected) the Ocean was made by Aquafibre and a lot fitted out by owners.
I had a Crown very good boat loads of room, good old Perkins, they say soft ride, well the lack of slamming compared with a planing boat i head seas is more due to the slower speed/lack of power IMHO i.e. the planing boat skipper will be trying and succeeding in going faster into the head seas.
Yup pretty wet in head seas too.
I have had mine with props leaving the crest (lack of experience at the time you understand) and she took it all better than the crew.
I had a Crown very good boat loads of room, good old Perkins, they say soft ride, well the lack of slamming compared with a planing boat i head seas is more due to the slower speed/lack of power IMHO i.e. the planing boat skipper will be trying and succeeding in going faster into the head seas.
Yup pretty wet in head seas too.
I have had mine with props leaving the crest (lack of experience at the time you understand) and she took it all better than the crew.
Greg2
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Yep, Oceans built (including fitting out) by Aquafibre, who are an associated company of Broom's and mould their boats. Because of the close association they are considered to be part of the Broom range by Brooms.
Some were sold as kits for fitting out by owners but these are easy to spot because the standard of the carpentry is usually inferior to the perfect craftmanship of the genuine article and the 'Ocean 37' logo is usually absent from the side of the boat.
Our Ocean was built like a tank, never gave any concern in lumpy conditions but as already observed was wet in a head sea (no problem under the canopy) and tend to roll a bit. Cruise at 10/12 knots all day and at 10 knots we were using 4.5 gph for both engines. Really lovely boat with superb teak interior and a huge amount of space internally.
Now why on earth have we just sold it... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
Some were sold as kits for fitting out by owners but these are easy to spot because the standard of the carpentry is usually inferior to the perfect craftmanship of the genuine article and the 'Ocean 37' logo is usually absent from the side of the boat.
Our Ocean was built like a tank, never gave any concern in lumpy conditions but as already observed was wet in a head sea (no problem under the canopy) and tend to roll a bit. Cruise at 10/12 knots all day and at 10 knots we were using 4.5 gph for both engines. Really lovely boat with superb teak interior and a huge amount of space internally.
Now why on earth have we just sold it... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
seaaztec
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Just joined up to this site. Interesting stuff as I own the Ocean 37 prototype built in 1968, No 2 hull moulded by Aquafibre with a marine ply superstructure. boat built by Neatishead Boatyard. Well into restoration project of 5 years plus now. I believe the original marine ply superstructure on mine was used to make the moulds for later all grp boats. Quite a few of the chaps who were involved in the design / production of this boat are still about .
Jon
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muckypup
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Wow... this threads a year old! You must have spent ages and ages going back over the posts.... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
oldgit
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A Broom.It will give just about everything you want from a boat.
It is reliable spacious comfortable and well built,further,will hold its value for years to come.Knowlegable boaters appreciate the marque and treat its owner with respect and awe.
So why would 99% of forumites not be seen dead in one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
It is reliable spacious comfortable and well built,further,will hold its value for years to come.Knowlegable boaters appreciate the marque and treat its owner with respect and awe.
So why would 99% of forumites not be seen dead in one /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
muckypup
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I don't see that there is is anything wrong with Brooms, I would be quite happy to own one. When I bought Harlequin, there was only one in my price range for sale and that had hard life... very hard life.
The older Brooms were actually nicely laid out, but no good for us with the dog as they had no easy way of getting him on and off. The new Brooms with the steps at the back would not be a problem.
The older Brooms were actually nicely laid out, but no good for us with the dog as they had no easy way of getting him on and off. The new Brooms with the steps at the back would not be a problem.
Renegade_Master
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Muckypup dont take the bait from Oldgit hes always trying to wind me up about the Broom Crown I used to have. Actually its all tongue in cheek he did like the boat , but says they are for the older generation and are inclined to have net curtains.
for the older generation?...........................thas rich coming from an "Oldgit" like him :~)
(PS if they are aimed at the older generation why have they got so many steps/stairs?)
for the older generation?...........................thas rich coming from an "Oldgit" like him :~)
(PS if they are aimed at the older generation why have they got so many steps/stairs?)
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I'd be quite happy in a Broom 50.
Not too sure about some of the smaller ones, which have aura of "River Boat" about them.
dv.
Not too sure about some of the smaller ones, which have aura of "River Boat" about them.
dv.
muckypup
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Maybe they could do a special version for old people. Built in teasmaid next to the bed and factory fitted plates on the wall showing the queens coronation. The transom steps could have a stenna stairlift built in and a cupboard for tartan blankets in the saloon.
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