What length of Mast?

[Black Sheep]

However the big question now is - will the OP return?

I hope so, but don't forget that as a new user, he probably has to wait for a mod to approve his posts.

Also, everyone is baying for photographs, which might take a while to organise (note to the original poster - don't worry about photos for the moment, just deal with the questions you can answer, eg is there a hole in the deck for the mast?).

If I were the OP, I might be a bit daunted by the responses here! I think a lot of the posters here assume it's a normal Bermudian setup with stayed mast, but I strongly suspect that we're dealing with something more like a Junk rig, with an unstayed keel-stepped mast.

(also, this thread was locked for a while this afternoon while the mods removed a bickering match between two members, for which I thank them, but it might have been disconcerting for the original poster if he came back while it was still locked!)

One more question for @robertfairclough6 - you described the mast as 150 x 90mm. Do you mean it has a diameter of 150mm at the bottom and 90mm at the top? You described it as "thick" - what, 10mm or so? If so, yes it'll be heavy, around 120kg, but not overly so. If it's keel stepped, and has those dimensions, then it won't need any standing rigging. Does it have any sail track on it, or is it just a smooth tapered cylinder? If smooth, then it really is sounding like an alternative rig, such as junk, but I'm sure there are other possibilities.

 

[steveeasy]

I seam to recall not being able to post images when I was a new member!!. Everyone is keen to see your new boat. Once they get a glimpse your get very helpful advice. Everyone here likes a good project. goes some way to keep most of them Sane.

Steveeasy

 

[Neeves]

" will the OP return?" I don't think so.
YBW should have a rule stopping fakes posting in the first month of their membership.
Why do people on the forum continue to encourage the pathetic morons?
If they make a post when joining and they do not identify who they are and where they live give them a miss.

I'm happy to provide information, but do wish photos were a rule - not a choice (that everyone forgets). I'm happy to share and encourage - Its my risk if if its a moron who is bored and takes pleasure from being an idiot. But if the thread dies - we will know. If the latter, I'll shrug my shoulders - and move on.

To me posts are sincere unless shown to be otherwise and I give new members the benefit of the doubt.

People are worried about privacy - which to me is daft - very little privacy is left - accept the new reality.

Jonathan

 

[DownWest]

He started the thread Yesterday at 02:22
and was last seen on YBW Yesterday at 18:11 which was 16 hours later.

In that time he had the opportunity to respond/answer to 10 replies but chose not to.

Maybe the boat is not close by and he will take the photos when he can? Still, an aknowledgement would be useful..

 

[Spanjaard]

You can cut a long mast but you cannot extend a short one.

Simple. Cut it.

 

[Neeves]

You can cut a long mast but you cannot extend a short one.

Simple. Cut it.

A long time ago I lost a mast on a RORC China Sea race, HK to San Fernando in the Phillipines. the mast failed at the deck, keel stepped, and we saved the broken section and sails. San Fernando is in the middle of no where, in terms of mast delivery so we moved the yacht to Manilla but the return to HK with a mastless yacht with a 10hp Bukh was a big ask. We had the mast builder (it was a few years ago and I forget who) to deliver an extrusion to match the failed point. The section was "U" shaped so had a bit wriggle room and was hammered in with a wooden mallet and then secured with rivets.

Other masts are made in a similar way, an insert being used to cover and intended join - and then riveted. You do tend to lose the ability to bend the mast as might have been originally intended.

It all worked perfectly and I used the broken mast waiting for the replacement to arrive. I don't recall that we won any races with the broken mast - but I'd have remembered if we had disgraced ourselves.

But it would be possible to extend a mast that was a bit short.

Jonathan

 

[Spanjaard]

A long time ago I lost a mast on a RORC China Sea race, HK to San Fernando in the Phillipines. the mast failed at the deck, keel stepped, and we saved the broken section and sails. San Fernando is in the middle of no where, in terms of mast delivery so we moved the yacht to Manilla but the return to HK with a mastless yacht with a 10hp Bukh was a big ask. We had the mast builder (it was a few years ago and I forget who) to deliver an extrusion to match the failed point. The section was "U" shaped so had a bit wriggle room and was hammered in with a wooden mallet and then secured with rivets.

Other masts are made in a similar way, an insert being used to cover and intended join - and then riveted. You do tend to lose the ability to bend the mast as might have been originally intended.

It all worked perfectly and I used the broken mast waiting for the replacement to arrive. I don't recall that we won any races with the broken mast - but I'd have remembered if we had disgraced ourselves.

But it would be possible to extend a mast that was a bit short.

Jonathan

Absolutely.

I wish I could sail around the Philippines. Even with a broken mast.

 

[LittleSister]

One more question for @robertfairclough6 - you described the mast as 150 x 90mm. Do you mean it has a diameter of 150mm at the bottom and 90mm at the top? . . .

Does it have any sail track on it, or is it just a smooth tapered cylinder?

I assumed it was oval in section, 150mm fore and aft, and 90mm lateral to the boat, and constant in section along its length.

Everyone is keen to see your new boat. Once they get a glimpse your get very helpful advice. Everyone here likes a good project. goes some way to keep most of them Sane.

With mixed degrees of effectiveness!