What knife do you carry

SailBobSquarePants said:
It is sad that the UK's legal system has become TOTALLY focused on the elimination of mechanisms, rather than paying attention to INTENT. This is a basic LEGAL FAILURE, because it allows sloppy and lazy police work - the cops LOVE it, because they never have to try and prove intent. Meanwhile the politicians can "prove" that they are doing everything possible to try and control crime...even eliminating basic freedoms and sanity.

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Actually, most cops don't love it any more than you do. Most cops look back to a golden age where every policeman was like PC Dixon and could use discretion and judgement in dealing with folks. Unfortunately the law is about black and white, not right and wrong. Not much we can do about it, it seems.
 
Humblebee said:
Actually, most cops don't love it any more than you do. Most cops look back to a golden age where every policeman was like PC Dixon and could use discretion and judgement in dealing with folks. Unfortunately the law is about black and white, not right and wrong. Not much we can do about it, it seems.
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Let's face it, the cops on YBW forums are probably some of the better ones.

Apart from anything else, there is good reason to believe that they can read and write!

But most cops aren't old enough to look back on anything much, other than perhaps the pleasure they got from duffing up some smaller kid in the playground at school and the sense of unfairness they felt when they failed their GCSEs.
 
Christmas spirit is alive and well!!!!

timbartlett said:
*****Let's face it, the cops on YBW forums are probably some of the better ones.******

Apart from anything else, there is good reason to believe that they can read and write!

But most cops aren't old enough to look back on anything much, other than perhaps the pleasure they got from duffing up some smaller kid in the playground at school and the sense of unfairness they felt when they failed their GCSEs.
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Steady on Tim! Is this tantamount to an acknowledgement that there might be some plod who might be just a little bit alright?

Perhaps just a little bit of Christmas goodwill to all men?

Afterall anyone with an interest in sailing can't be all bad. Can they?
 
Most these days are graduates. The days when the those on the ground were ex-services and those in the management suite were graduates are long gone.

Unfortunately.

Though, to be fair, I did only get one 'O' level. I was one of the first in my school to get that many, most left at 15 in those days! I didn't get a degree until my 40s.
 
Oh, and to answer the original question, I have a Green River in it's sheath screwed to the companion way, a stainless serrated bladed knife clippped in the cockpit locker lid, various other down below and a stainless penknife in my jacket pocket.

Less than 3'', non locking blade so I don't have to worry about some jobsworth/corrupt/incompetent/lazy plod picking on me just to make up his arrest figures.

Boring, I know.
 
We have a diver's knife and a multitool strapped to the steering pedestal.
We try to remember to hide them away when moored on the quay, but sometimes forget.
For ropework, I tend to use a stanley knife, saves all that tedious sharpening.
 
Oh crikey! The boat has a 12"cabbage knife, a butcher's hatchet, and several filleting and gutting knives, all justifiable of course. I carry an opinel no. 8 which I just measured at 3.25", there is a no. 10 in the car and a spare at home. I often mend gear on the quay and various knives large and small are a necessity. Hmmmmm. I'll get done, won't I?
 
From experience i am now a stout believer in the advantages of carrying a knife afloat. Personally i carry a leatherman WAVE (primariliy for the tools) and a Spyderco Assit -Rescue Knife. What everyou decide to carry you will need to make sure it suits your needs. many of the rescue blades are blunted at the tip to prevent accidents and most have a serated blade of some form which tends to make thinfgs alot quicker. I would suggest if it is to be used for as an emergency tool something that you can open single handed!!! It is potentially worth considering an additional knife for the boat as some of the other posts have said. My Rib also has a Teckno Rescue Knife bolted to the seat in plain site. That way if needs be if you go over or cant get to your blade atleast someone else has the chance to help (assuming your not single handed).
 
This has worked a treat for me. Gerber Hinderer Rescue. A really solid and reliable knife. I'd never sail without a knife in my pocket; for my safety and those I sail with.
 
Our safety knife is an Abu Garcia fishing knife. It has it's own holster attached to the VHF cable for emergency use.

It's never shown a sign of rust, always stays sharp (after gutting countless fish with it :) ) and only cost a fiver.
 
Years ago, I used to have a knife attached to my buoyancy aid, it had a serrated edge on one side and a (carbide ?) coated edge on the other. both edges were attached by small screws and were replaceable. The coated edge would go through wire rigging. Lost it when my buoyancy aid was stolen, and I can't remember what it was called. Can't find them in any of the catalogues. Sound familiar to anyone, probably ten or fifteen years ago.
 
fisherman said:
Hmmmmm. I'll get done, won't I?
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Only if you end up infront of a particularly bad magistrate .... the ones I know will use their own discretion and you'd likely to get off with a warning at worst - unless you attempt to avoid arrest by using the knife of course!

From here:
http://www.police-information.co.uk/legislation/legislationindexeng.html#K
Source: Criminal Justice Act, 1988. Section 139(1).

Offence: It is an offence for any person, without lawful authority or good reason, to have with him in a public place, any article which has a blade or is sharply pointed except for a folding pocket-knife which has a cutting edge to its blade not exceeding 3 inches.

Powers: Arrestable offence.
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Which basically says that providing you have a good (and I assume Lawful) reason you can carry any type of blade in public.
So - for me, carrying around a fishing knife during the day, well away from water, wouldn't cut it - however, travelling too/from the boat (including a trip by tender) could be considered good reason - also assuming I'm not waving it around ... also assuming I'm not drunk either ...
All my blades lock - it would be dangerous (to me) for them not too. When I do have a locking blade with me for work purposes it is stored in a tool box with other tools.

As an small addition I'm sat at my desk at work with two 5" bladed kitchen knives - sharp point ... one gets used most days in my office ... and is left there rather than taken home. I have carried it to external sites and occasionally put it in a pocket - but these are for specific demonstrative tasks where a blade is required.
 
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