What is a trawler yacht?

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Following helpful input:

1) Lifestyle - no rush. Enjoy the sea crossing at displacement speed rather than being desperate to arrive and making it an endurance run
2) Separate pilothouse complete with a proper chart table
3) Internal space sufficient for live aboard
4) Long ocean crossing capability
5) Self sufficiency for many days
6) Proper ship's wheel
7) Single hull
8) No sail (except for a steadying sail)

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Portofino said:
running one of these between a villa on the St Tropez peninsula and another villa on Costa Esmeralda
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Mmm... Is that sort of commuting supposed to be fun?
Yes, I agree that it's nicer to do that with a luxury boat rather than a RoRo ferry - ONCE.
Other than that, the latter is more comfortable, and at least if you are at the helm you get paid for the job!

That aside, what sort of animal is the boat in your pic?
She reminds of Baia One Hundred, but I don't think she is...
 
MapisM said:
That aside, what sort of animal is the boat in your pic?
She reminds of Baia One Hundred, but I don't think she is...
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It’s a one off - interesting set of characters behind it though. Fantastic provenance to the point of pseudo investment in terms of nil depreciation or possible long term investment a rare feat in the boat world but possible.
De Vinci ,s art stuff is not pretty but has a strong £/€ /$ following etc

https://www.edmiston.com/yacht-brokerage/yachts/g-whiz

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/yacht-stefaren-now-maridome-54m-gwhiz-46-knots-jaime-soares-neto

Sorry for the thread drift .

If you click about the Edmiston site there are some big “ explorers “too
Now that name / genre is easy to understand when you see what it’s applied to —- cos they actual go exploring.
As opposed to “trawlers “ which don,t go trawling!!
 
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Piers said:
Following helpful input:

1) Lifestyle - no rush. Enjoy the sea crossing at displacement speed rather than being desperate to arrive and making it an endurance run
2) Separate pilothouse complete with a proper chart table
3) Internal space sufficient for live aboard
4) Long ocean crossing capability
5) Self sufficiency for many days
6) Proper ship's wheel
7) Single hull
8) No sail (except for a steadying sail)

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I don't think you can get away from having some explicit external appearance criterion (and possibly a maximum size), otherwise you will start encompassing explorer yachts, ice breakers, cruise ships and the like.

Not that I think it's worth defining in the first place. If any boat has what we might think of as type-dysmophia I think we should all be particularly understanding of its needs and wants and not impose our cultural stereotypes on it. If it wants to use a trawler berth, it can.
 
sorabain said:
If it wants to use a trawler berth, it can.
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That would be funny. Can you imagine turning up at a port in your million dollar luxury boat that you insist is a trawler and the harbor master puts you with the smelly real trawlers?
 
NBs said:
Hi,

Go Anywhere, Do Anything!:cool:

Today's trawlers-and other seafaring boats with passagemaking qualities in their DNA-provide comfort, efficiency and seaworthiness.

A few great new boats featuring Pleasure Trawler or whatever the term.

https://www.soundingsonline.com/boats/go-anywhere-do-everything

NBs
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The TT35 has twin outboards. Even the most laissez-faire will baulk at that. Makes you wonder at the credibility of the article as a whole even though it does sport a catamaran :encouragement:
 
By MapisM :
'I don't think language is a matter of being a purist or not, and the authoritative definition on language is bound to be the dictionary, I reckon. According to Cambridge Dictionary, a trawler is "a large boat that uses a wide, cone-shaped net to catch fish" - period.'

'Now, if we translate that into hull forms, it doesn't take a naval architect to appreciate that in the history of mankind neither catamarans nor planing monohulls have ever been used for such purpose.'

Here are a couple of trawler catamarans that use cone shaped nets to catch things - ok, they are research vessels rather than commercial trawlers in the conventional sense, but close enough (?).

Callista is owned by the Oceanography Department at Southampton University -
https://www.southampton.ac.uk/discoveroceanography/rv_callista/index.page
More photos of her here -
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ai...d:190362/mmsi:235028893/imo:0/vessel:CALLISTA

The F G Walton Smith is a research vessel owned by the University of Miami
http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/resources/marine-department/fg-walton-smith/

And photos of her on Marinetraffic
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ai...434667/mmsi:367020910/vessel:F.G.WALTON SMITH
One of the photos of her shows her recovering or deploying a trawl net.

Changing tack, re the TT 35 by Great Harbour Marine - if one of the definitions of trawler yacht is good fuel economy and sea-keeping, then surely this vessel qualifies?
http://www.greatharbourtrawlers.com/tt35.html
 
Bajansailor said:
Here are a couple of trawler catamarans that use cone shaped nets to catch things - ok, they are research vessels rather than commercial trawlers in the conventional sense, but close enough (?).
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Well, every day is a school day, as the old saying goes! :o
Though I'm sure you'll agree that they could also considered the exception proving the rule, if you think of the zillions of fishing trawlers around the globe.... :)
 
Piers said:
Following helpful input:

1) Lifestyle - no rush. Enjoy the sea crossing at displacement speed rather than being desperate to arrive and making it an endurance run
2) Separate pilothouse complete with a proper chart table
3) Internal space sufficient for live aboard
4) Long ocean crossing capability
5) Self sufficiency for many days
6) Proper ship's wheel
7) Single hull
8) No sail (except for a steadying sail)
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You know, having been watching this thread and a similar thread on the Trawler forum, I've been trying to describe what I believe to be a trawler yacht. But I've now come to the following conclusion: there is no definition.

Describing your boat as a trawler yacht is more about describing your way of life, your character, what you enjoy about being at sea, your aim on life. Of course, if your boat looks trawler-esque, you could very well say it's a trawler yacht. But it's going to be subjective.

So I've changed my mind.

Happy Christmas!
 
Piers said:
You know, having been watching this thread and a similar thread on the Trawler forum, I've been trying to describe what I believe to be a trawler yacht. But I've now come to the following conclusion: there is no definition.

Describing your boat as a trawler yacht is more about describing your way of life, your character, what you enjoy about being at sea, your aim on life. Of course, if your boat looks trawler-esque, you could very well say it's a trawler yacht. But it's going to be subjective.

So I've changed my mind.

Happy Christmas!
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I agree, and boats are marketed to your aspirations. I love the faux workboat look and (as I’ve said before) pretending to roll your sleeves up before a hard day’s cruising and I think my boat looks the part. After all a real Trawler is a boat with its own flock of seagulls, and who wants that:disgust:
Merry Christmas
 
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