What is a decent weight?

Re: What a decent weight?

Weight of what? Displacement, ground tackle, sail cloth, Skipper, stores, water, Time it takes to find a decent one, How long till SWMBO agrees to go away. Yada yada yada /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Re: What a decent weight?

25 tons..Mor to the point I think is theold question of anchour size.I had s 40 foot 14 ton cutter and this carried a 60 il Bower and 45 il2nd anchour.Witha two speed windlass(HAND) ,IT WAS AT TIME EXHAUSTING.Top of list would be 100% Hydraulics if you go beyond 38 40 foot,imho.
 
Re: What a decent weight?

25 tons? 22.5 tonnes? Blimey. So a 15 tonne SO 52.2 is much too light for ocean passages?

What do you base this on?
 
If you're going around the downwind direction (the only sensible way) then I would opt for the lighter the better. Best long distance cruiser I have ever been on was a custom built 50' called Cetacea, based on the open 60's of the late 80's. Lovely boat, fast off the wind plenty of space. My own boat was great in big seas and was a relative lightweight, high volume boat.

It's really what you like that counts, you may have to sail different designs in a different way though.
 
25 TONS for a 50 footerof the traditional type,obviouslythe modern designs can quite well be 15tons,you need to study the ratios sa/dispt,block coeff etc
 
Mine's 45ft and 22 tonnes and a ferro. She moved really well in light winds and I can't wait to get to know her more next year once I move aboard ferrover.
 
CodStewart.It seems to suprise people how fast a heavy boat goes;all to do with inertia.From my limited experience they are once mastered very predictableand dont waft about!The only problem I had was the gear,not for daysailing!
 
Mogy,
Yes, she held herself quite well whilst crossing the Sea Of Cortez this past summer. There was quite a swell coming from the port side and it barely wobbled her.
Lovely, lovely boat.
 
useful but FAR too sensible, cs. I *much* preferred the love-lorn spaced-out and/or bohemian irrelevancies with a bit of japanese thrown in. Sadly, I'm afraid that you can no longer consider yourself as resident cabin feverish forum loon, at least temporarily.
 
tcm,
Oh, if I fall in love again, get dumped and then sink, the blog will metamorph into the good 'ole days of madness, suicide attempts and pressure cooked bread again.
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I know, I know, it could kill me!
Reminds me of when I was an angst teen and my mother stopped my subscription to 'Jackie' magazine. I locked myself in the bathroom and put a bag over my head; but I couldn't breathe and so I took the bag off and went downstairs to watch Grange Hill.
 
It's not quite as simple as weight for length, there are other factors such as do you want a comfortable ride, etc.

Eg, my 38footer was built as a racing design, but would be considered heavy at over 16000 lb by today's standards, but she is fast and incredibly comfortable even in rough weather.

I found this site a good starting point. www.image-ination.com/sailcalcv1.html You can also enter many of the well known designs from the standard data base.

It will also do direct comparisons between different designs automatically for you.
 
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