What is a "Classic"

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What is a \"Classic\"

2 Posts in the last week asking if this boat is a 'Classic'. Is Dell Boys £44,000 Reliant a 'Classic'. I advertise my Eventide (still for sale - oops sorry Kim) as a 'Classic MG design' - while a neighbouring GRP afficianado at the yard describes it as a classic heap.... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif So what is a classic?

Responses to the 2 recent postings seem to have moved away from the consensus definition of 'classic' last time we debated it. So what do we now think is a 'Classic' boat?
 
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The same debate rages on in the "classic" car fraternity. Before I saw the light and spent too much time and beer money doing up motors a classic had running boards, probably had a wood frame and smelled of castor oil and leather. Then in the 80's Ford Capris and Hillman minxes started appearing at the shows. Even, heaven forfend, MGB's. No it seems any car with a clean engine bay qualifies.
Fibrerglass not classic?
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Daimler SP250. Bodywork: fibreglass.
'nuff said.
The answer is, if you think your boat/car is a classic then it is, to you if no-one else.
And that's what matters.
So I will park my MAH (Manky Auld Hillyard) next to a Fife without a qualm.
 
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My Iveco van is a classic it says so just above the front wheel arches!
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Thanks Tom, just a bit bored this morning.
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Responses to the 2 recent postings seem to have moved away from the consensus definition of 'classic' last time we debated it. So what do we now think is a 'Classic' boat?

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As newcomer here (though an occasional contributor to Classic Boat magazine) I would love to know what the consensus of opinion is, not being cheeky, I am interested.

I have noticed that both the Hurley post (mine) and Coribee post that no one has post any negatives (yet), so has the consensus chaged? The Hurley poll is currently running in favour of it being a classic at a ratio of over 2:1.

As a side note, I have noticed that as the years go by the range of classics increases as more old items, be it boats, cars, even radios, become more difficult to find in GOOD conditon, and the public perception changes. For instance, a very clean '86 VW Wedge (T3) bus is rapidly taking over from the Bay window (T2), just as the Bay took over from the Split screen (T1) though I think a lot of this is the T2 has become just to expensive for mortals to own, as did the T1.

John

Oh, while I remember, I owned a Hillyard 2.5 Tonner for 6 years, always thought of it as a classic for mortals, over a hundred produced, sailed fairly well and looked grand /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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a seaworthy yacht that is old enough to be avaible at an affordable price and is sailed further and more often than
its newly manufactured equivalent
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Nice definition

Not going to be too many mass produce 'classics' in years to come then judging by many of todays production offerings
 
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A classic is anything that takes all of your spare time and money.
You can stand back, look at it and you can be proud of it.
Your partner, children and bank manger may not quite see the same thing.
I agree with Gordonmc.
 
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I cant be bothered to go through this "classic or not" stuff again, too busy with my classic boat!
 
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Hee, Hee,
My Pentland's a classic to me. It's 35years old and a well known, recognisable design by a famous design house (I understand Laurent-Giles didn't do much of the detail design work himself). It has excellent accomodation, still looks reasonably attractive (especially as it is a ketch) yet still sails pretty good.

In my view, one of the key criteria is that the value doesn't fall (maybe even rises). This has to be because the boat is liked and in demand still. Classics are the boats that people still want to own.
 
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Classics are the boats that people still want to own.
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Hi Steve.
I think that just about sums it up nicely.
Cheers David.
 
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Responses to the 2 recent postings seem to have moved away from the consensus definition of 'classic' last time we debated it. So what do we now think is a 'Classic' boat?

[/ QUOTE ] For instance, a very clean '86 VW Wedge (T3) bus is rapidly taking over from the Bay window (T2), just as the Bay took over from the Split screen (T1) though I think a lot of this is the T2 has become just to expensive for mortals to own, as did the T1.

John

Oh, while I remember, I owned a Hillyard 2.5 Tonner for 6 years, always thought of it as a classic for mortals, over a hundred produced, sailed fairly well and looked grand /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I own a Hillyard and a T2 (Baywindow) VW.
The two seem to go together. I always refer to my VW as a Hillyard of the road, and the Hillyard as the Volkswagen camper of the sea..... not that I'm trying to refer to a Hillyard as being a floating caravan /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif... more of a floating cottage! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Doug
 
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