thailand69
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How do you do this? By going looking for them or having built up a map by plotting every time you snag one and call for a tow?
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That is one way I guess /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif, but IME after travelling the same passages a few times it just seems to me that the pots are usually found in the same places. (Note that in my original post I said "likely", this time I said "usually"! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif).
Pre GPS and Chartplotter etc I found it was one way to note your progress and that given the time you were probably at least broadly in the right area (Note the use of the words "probably" and "broadly"! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). and could "broadly" confirm the tidal stream strength and direction by looking at a lobster pot. And (although never used!) it was a possible option to anchor up near one or even moor too one in the knowledge that someone would be back or at least passing at sometime. (No VHF of course!)........but did have a Very Pistol, /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif which got tested every 5th Nov (yeah, I know, I know /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) and I usually carried plenty of beer (or wine, depending which leg of the trip we were on!) "for emergencies only" of course /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Having said all that I won't say I ever navigated relying on Pot markers!, and I am talking 12 - 15 Knots rather than 25 - 35 knots. But pre GPS etc it was possible to reach France safely with a Chart, Tidal Stream Atlas, a Watch and hand steering to an ex RAF compass - Trust me on this /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif, but every little bit helped (cos' even back then one bit of the sea did look much like another!). Which part of France you would safely reach was of course part of the "achievement" (fun??).......and I recall a few landfalls at grey nondescript coastline where the converstion consisted of "shall we turn left or right?"........... but of course I now love GPS etc and I wouldn't swap one for an ex RAF compass /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.
Sorry, kinda went somewhat off topic /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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I have no problem with a good lookout, but even the orange bouys are there for the fisherman to locate the end of his string of pots from a general location not for them to be avoided. Hence my suggestion of danbouys, that would be a positive step to show other water users where to avoid. I'd have to go off the plane to spot some of those in time from the pics posted earlier in this thread.
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I do also prefer them with Danbouys, but I have still nearly run down a few of these in my time /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, on boats of various speeds. When autopilots came in, it took me a while to get used of the concept of having nothing to do but still keeping the same lookout. Nearly ran into a Cardinal Bouy once, whilst having lunch /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif To be honest (and I don't want to be funny here) if I was going somwhere that I either knew had pots around or was new to me and was likely to have, I would be going at a speed that enabled me to spot what was in the water - not because of any great concern for the fishing gear (sorry Fisherman!), but because it would be bad for me to get tangled up in them. I don't like cold water /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. of course I now would consider a rope cutter desirable equipment. if not essential.
Not your post I know, but someone else seem to say that 10 metres of floating rope was a surprise. I tend to assume they are likely to have 10 metres of floating rope and pass either upstream of them or give them a wide berth. Of course this is not always possible - cos' sometimes it is like navigating a mine field!
I reckon the Fisherman are perfectly entitled to put their pots pretty much where they want. They are trying to make a living, I am out at sea for "fun" - of course I do 'eff and blind with the best of 'em about f#ggin pots, but I never get worked up enough to want to make an issue of it face to face down the local fishermans pub /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Krist, I don't half rabbit on when I get started /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Did I ever tell you about the war......................... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
How do you do this? By going looking for them or having built up a map by plotting every time you snag one and call for a tow?
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That is one way I guess /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif, but IME after travelling the same passages a few times it just seems to me that the pots are usually found in the same places. (Note that in my original post I said "likely", this time I said "usually"! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif).
Pre GPS and Chartplotter etc I found it was one way to note your progress and that given the time you were probably at least broadly in the right area (Note the use of the words "probably" and "broadly"! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif). and could "broadly" confirm the tidal stream strength and direction by looking at a lobster pot. And (although never used!) it was a possible option to anchor up near one or even moor too one in the knowledge that someone would be back or at least passing at sometime. (No VHF of course!)........but did have a Very Pistol, /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif which got tested every 5th Nov (yeah, I know, I know /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) and I usually carried plenty of beer (or wine, depending which leg of the trip we were on!) "for emergencies only" of course /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
Having said all that I won't say I ever navigated relying on Pot markers!, and I am talking 12 - 15 Knots rather than 25 - 35 knots. But pre GPS etc it was possible to reach France safely with a Chart, Tidal Stream Atlas, a Watch and hand steering to an ex RAF compass - Trust me on this /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif, but every little bit helped (cos' even back then one bit of the sea did look much like another!). Which part of France you would safely reach was of course part of the "achievement" (fun??).......and I recall a few landfalls at grey nondescript coastline where the converstion consisted of "shall we turn left or right?"........... but of course I now love GPS etc and I wouldn't swap one for an ex RAF compass /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.
Sorry, kinda went somewhat off topic /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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I have no problem with a good lookout, but even the orange bouys are there for the fisherman to locate the end of his string of pots from a general location not for them to be avoided. Hence my suggestion of danbouys, that would be a positive step to show other water users where to avoid. I'd have to go off the plane to spot some of those in time from the pics posted earlier in this thread.
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I do also prefer them with Danbouys, but I have still nearly run down a few of these in my time /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif, on boats of various speeds. When autopilots came in, it took me a while to get used of the concept of having nothing to do but still keeping the same lookout. Nearly ran into a Cardinal Bouy once, whilst having lunch /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif To be honest (and I don't want to be funny here) if I was going somwhere that I either knew had pots around or was new to me and was likely to have, I would be going at a speed that enabled me to spot what was in the water - not because of any great concern for the fishing gear (sorry Fisherman!), but because it would be bad for me to get tangled up in them. I don't like cold water /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif. of course I now would consider a rope cutter desirable equipment. if not essential.
Not your post I know, but someone else seem to say that 10 metres of floating rope was a surprise. I tend to assume they are likely to have 10 metres of floating rope and pass either upstream of them or give them a wide berth. Of course this is not always possible - cos' sometimes it is like navigating a mine field!
I reckon the Fisherman are perfectly entitled to put their pots pretty much where they want. They are trying to make a living, I am out at sea for "fun" - of course I do 'eff and blind with the best of 'em about f#ggin pots, but I never get worked up enough to want to make an issue of it face to face down the local fishermans pub /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Krist, I don't half rabbit on when I get started /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Did I ever tell you about the war......................... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
