What happened to common decency?

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So, moored up at windsor for the night, its now 2250h and I can hear one generator and two boats with an engine running.

WTF happened to showing consideration for others and only running such things during daylight hours?

And don't get me started on the number of boats coming past here during the day that thought they were in a race, 5th knots speed limit -not even close!

I really need to find something more relaxing to do, I'm starting to sound like boatone or apollo, got room for one more grumpy git in your club guys?
 
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I totally agree, it's the same when you go through a lock in the evenings and people don't turn their motors off and give you a cabin full of fumes.I've always found a couple of slices of crumbed bread on top of the offending boats after they have switched their generators off and retired for the night usually makes me sleep better at night, knowing that nature will have it's revenge,ha ha ha (he who laughs last) ;-)
 
!00% with you....

...on those noisy (yes thats you with the hondas and the Kipoors as well ) poxy things.
Should only be allowed for a couple of hours around lunch time.
Their use should be regarded in the same light as pumping your S**t tank into the river,it is pollution.
I would include in the BSC rules that if you do not have sufficent battery capacity for at least 48 hours your boat does not get its certificate AND you MUST throw over the side all those flat screens/microwaves/hairdryers/soundsystems/Ipods/laptops etc until your batteries can cope with aformentioned time scale.
Grrrrrr.............................
 
we were moored at windsor a couple of weeks ago and were woken by the distinctive "clink-clank of tentpoles at one thirty a.m.!
and the inevitable "silent" generator could be heard!
also loud conversation and frequent
flashes of torchlight were all too obvious.

in the morning we were greeted by the sight of 2 tents,a trampoline,a gazebo,and many items of garden furniture.

i do agree with the sentiments expressed regarding lack of consideration for others,it is all too common.

one can only assume that some folks have taken to boating to "get away from it all",so why do they bring it with them?

have they been banned from torremolinos for being too noisy?

why cannot they arrange a power system that does not disturb other river users?
 
DogsBody said:
I really need to find something more relaxing to do, I'm starting to sound like boatone or apollo, got room for one more grumpy git in your club guys?
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Whilst I concur with your sentiments regarding the breakdown of considerate society, I am somewhat dismayed that you should consider Apollo and I to have formalised our somewhat tenuous relationship into a grumpy old gits club.
However, even if we had I think we would require significantly more evidence of your eligibility to join us than a mere single report of your distress on this occasion.
I refute allegations that I am a grump - I merely tell it like it is which some occasionally find unpalatable :D

(cue oldgit's arrival with scurrilous words of little consequence ..........)
 
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boatone said:
Whilst I concur with your sentiments regarding the breakdown of considerate society, I am somewhat dismayed that you should consider Apollo and I to have formalised our somewhat tenuous relationship into a grumpy old gits club.
However, even if we had I think we would require significantly more evidence of your eligibility to join us than a mere single report of your distress on this occasion.
I refute allegations that I am a grump - I merely tell it like it is which some occasionally find unpalatable :D

(cue oldgit's arrival with scurrilous words of little consequence ..........)
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Well said mate, I too was disappointed with that part of Darrens post.
 
I think you have to work on the grumpiness Darren, you are nowhere near meeting the minimum requirement as yet.

I will put my hands up to being a generator user (Honda EU20i), but I try to keep its use to civilised hours.

It's usually quieter than the noise of forumites on the booze! :D
 
And how about the people who fail to wave back Darren!! :o

Speed is still an issue. Today we witnessed a chap in a 12 foot speedboat hammering it's little 25hp Yamaha to bits, probably nudging 25kts up and down by Windsor racecourse.

Not the worst wake in history in fairness, but openly comitting the act in front of all and sundry!

No name on the boat, but Red topsides and White hull...:mad:
 
Riverleak said:
I've always found a couple of slices of crumbed bread on top of the offending boats after they have switched their generators off and retired for the night usually makes me sleep better at night, knowing that nature will have it's revenge,ha ha ha (he who laughs last) ;-)
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Now this I LOVE. I am DEFINITELY going to give this a go.

BOATONE: Were you in Henley Yesterday? I saw a boat the same as yours but wasn't sure if it was you. Decided not to wave arms and try to make myself known for fear of A) it not being you B) Owner of said boat then telling me to go fourth and multiply.
 
With regard to the original post, can somebody say where there are guidelines about use of generators/running engines? I've got a feeling the suggestion was that it was recommended not to be after 8pm, but was there a morning not earlier than time as well? And are these part of any guides the EA produces for visitors to the river? (you can tell I've been to Abingdon lately & this relates to long & thin things)
 
Bankside Notice.....No generators between Dawn and Dusk ?

The problem I feel is that,like loud music the offender has no idea of just how far the sound travels,causing irritation over a large area,until you have been on the receiving end that is.It will always be worse in a popular crowded mooring as opposed to being parked miles from anywhere on your own.
At least with loud music coming from a moving boat it passes within a few minutes but a static genny droning on for hours on end is a different matter.
Is it something to do with people attempting to take their entire worldly collection of electrical possesions with them or just being too mean to fork out a few quid on a new set of batteries.
Nobody is objecting to an emergency charge when the engine battery will not turn over the engine,but 20 mins with the genny should solve that and then MOVE on to top up the batteries. ?
 
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ianc1200 said:
With regard to the original post, can somebody say where there are guidelines about use of generators/running engines? I've got a feeling the suggestion was that it was recommended not to be after 8pm, but was there a morning not earlier than time as well? And are these part of any guides the EA produces for visitors to the river? (you can tell I've been to Abingdon lately & this relates to long & thin things)
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We were in Abingdon several years ago and experienced EA Inspectors checking boats running generators and pointing out a bye-law (the number of which I can't remember) which "forbids the running of an engine to the annoyance of others", which he pointed out was not solely aimed at generators, but ANY engine. At a later date I was at Old Windsor lock where they (used to?) have a noticeboard which contained the river bye-laws and sure enough I found the paragraph under the subsection he had mentioned.

Enforcement is what is missing of course!
 
I found the River Thames Navigation Byelaws on the Environment Agency web site.

Section 57 (b) reads "The master of any power-driven vessel attached to any moorings mooring buoy mooring post dolphin jetty wharf or landing-place shall ensure that her engines are not worked in a manner risking causing injury or damage to such moorings mooring buoy mooring post dolphin jetty wharf or landing-place or any vessel or thing whatsoever or in such manner to give reasonable cause for annoyance to any person on the waterway or on the banks. "

I suppose that this could be interpreted to cover the use of generators.
 
Thanks for that. To be fair not all the problems were at Abingdon or to do with nb's. Moored last Thursday towards the end of Pangbourne Meadow and a plastic cruiser moored tight to my bow started his engine about 8:30pm and left running for about 1.5 hours (assume he was watching TV). He too had a visitors plate and I did wonder whether the EA handed anything out to visitors explaining the do's & don'ts.
 
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He too had a visitors plate and I did wonder whether the EA handed anything out to visitors explaining the do's & don'ts.
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No doubt Howard will be along soon to tell us what info they hand out to visitors.

However, whatever leaflets etc they may be given I doubt that many will actually read them - and I suspect even fewer will actually observe :(

If we are honest, this is not really a river issue but has everything to do with the so called 'breakdown of society' .
 
I'm not so sure, I think (from the last 3.5 weeks observations) this is more, but not exclusively, a visiting boaters as against a Thames Boater issue. Perhaps on the associated rivers/canals they have more space such it doesn't cause annoyance, whereas at the height of summer in the congested free moorings areas such as Abingdon & Pangbourne it does.
 
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