What cost standing rigging?

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Any rough pointers on how much replacing standing rigging is likely to cost on a 27 footer?

Wiring is mostly fifteen years old, except forestay which is ten. Although mast (Kemp Selden) only about 30ft with single spreaders, shrouds include two lowers and there are two backstays and an inner forestay - and thicker diameter of wire more appropriate to a yacht ten foot longer.
 
Re-rigging my 27 footer in 2017 cost me about £860 (though I was something of a captive audience, and didn't shop around - presumably both the boatyard and the riggers made money out of it). Masthead sloop, single spreader, 2 cap shrouds, 4 lowers, r/r forestay, single backstay.

That comprised roughly £160 for c61m of 5mm wire, £300 for 8 swage bottle screws, £60 for 8 other swage fittings, £80 for 16 swages, £120 for on-site strip down and re-rig of mast, including 'roller fuller charge', and £145 VAT.

That price was more than I was expecting (isn't it always?), but not wildly so. I think from posts on here around that time I was expecting about £700. I'd be surprised if you could do it for £475, as per the Albin Vega website quoted (what year?), unless you were re-using fittings.

On a previous occasion I re-rigged a 23 footer myself, getting the rigging via mail order, which is (in theory) probably a cheaper option. (Unfortunately it turned out, having raised the heavy mast, in a packed boatyard, two-handed using a cunning and novel spider's web of ropes and blocks of my own devising, the supplier had made up the wires to incorrect lengths so the mast had to come down again. My nerves couldn't face the mental strain of raising the mast again myself in those circumstances, so the additional cost of the boatyard craning it in blew my heavily constrained budget.)
 
LittleSister said:
Re-rigging my 27 footer in 2017 cost me about £860 (though I was something of a captive audience, and didn't shop around - presumably both the boatyard and the riggers made money out of it). Masthead sloop, single spreader, 2 cap shrouds, 4 lowers, r/r forestay, single backstay.

That comprised roughly £160 for c61m of 5mm wire, £300 for 8 swage bottle screws, £60 for 8 other swage fittings, £80 for 16 swages, £120 for on-site strip down and re-rig of mast, including 'roller fuller charge', and £145 VAT.

That price was more than I was expecting (isn't it always?), but not wildly so. I think from posts on here around that time I was expecting about £700. I'd be surprised if you could do it for £475, as per the Albin Vega website quoted (what year?), unless you were re-using fittings.

On a previous occasion I re-rigged a 23 footer myself, getting the rigging via mail order, which is (in theory) probably a cheaper option. (Unfortunately it turned out, having raised the heavy mast, in a packed boatyard, two-handed using a cunning and novel spider's web of ropes and blocks of my own devising, the supplier had made up the wires to incorrect lengths so the mast had to come down again. My nerves couldn't face the mental strain of raising the mast again myself in those circumstances, so the additional cost of the boatyard craning it in blew my heavily constrained budget.)
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If you are ok to climb the mast and carefully measure the existing stays you can get someone like Jimmy Greens to make up new stays and fit hem yourself one by one ( with suitable rope temporary stays!)
could save quite a bit.
 
I have just re-rigged my 30 footer. Forestay, backstay, 2 caps, 2 lowers and a babystay. All turnbuckles / toggles renewed as well. 800 quid from Jimmy Green but that was with 20% off during November.

I rewired the electrics in the mast, VHF coax, etc., and new lights. Oh, and a new roller furling system as that was the cause of the old forestay being kaput... so the price for the standing rigging was just the beginning of the pain really!
 
A middle of the road way on cost is to have swaged fittings at the top and Norseman or StayLocks at the bottom, assumig you can get up the mastto swapover the shrouds. It is not difficuilt to make up the swageless fittings yourself as long as you take your time!
 
C08 said:
A middle of the road way on cost is to have swaged fittings at the top and Norseman or StayLocks at the bottom, assumig you can get up the mastto swapover the shrouds. It is not difficuilt to make up the swageless fittings yourself as long as you take your time!
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Being hoisted up the mast to replace shrouds?

Would mast down to start with in a nice controlled manner not negate the risk of a rapid, uncontrolled dropping of the mast all the while confirming, in person, the speed of gravity is 9.81m/s as you drop from 12m to ground level astonishing quickly?
 
Thanks for the input folks. Mine is a total of ten lengths of 6mm plus two at 5mm (running backstays) so that's roughly 120m all up, plus Norseman terminals (I assume they are all re-usable but don't know?) and I'll be a captive of the boatyard. An association member with a 34ft version of my boat recently paid £2,900 for a complete replacement, so I'm reckoning on at least £1,500 or more... but until I hear from the riggers when I'm out the water with the mast down its all guesswork.
 
I would not use a rigger to replace it myself, simply send the bits off to Jimmy Green and they will measure, quote and replicate and send it all back. If it comes out at more than £800 I'll be suprised.
 
I paid £1000 for a full re rig on my 28' Mirage in 2005 including baby stay. So it appears that prices have held steady or decreased. I used Atlantic Spars from Brixham who did a good job but I understand since gone out of business.
 
Long time ago but I found that Jimmy Green quoted the best price for supplying the standing rigging for my V27, Check with the owners association someone will have the rigging plan and specs, I don't have them any longer. Kevin Seymour could probably help if he is still involved.
 
Does Jimmy Green process orders for standing rigging quickly?

I am thinking of having my mast lifted out next summer (in France) and measuring for and fitting new rigging. having had good experience with JG, and not knowing a rigger in Brittany, I would probably order from them and have it sent out by courier.
 
Poignard said:
Does Jimmy Green process orders for standing rigging quickly?

I am thinking of having my mast lifted out next summer (in France) and measuring for and fitting new rigging. having had good experience with JG, and not knowing a rigger in Brittany, I would probably order from them and have it sent out by courier.
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Give them a ring.
 
Poignard said:
They are not open today and I want an answer NOW! Do you hear me? NOW!
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OK yes they are quick I remember I called in at their shop and they cut it as I waited, not much help to you as you live in London, it was on my way to the boat in Plymouth and the shop was / is in Beer a nice village with a pleasant name.

Second thoughts you might travel to your boat from the SW so collection could be a possibility.(y)
 
My cost for a Moody33 - Forestay, Backstay cap, 2 lowers and babystay, all new bottle screws. I had the mast lowered and fitted them myself, also checked lights etc. Good job I lowered the mast as I found the babystay mast fitting needed replacing. Cost £858 in spring 2018 .
 
From the replies here it seems that circa £1,000 is what the materials would cost, plus roughly £500 for the work if done by riggers.
 
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