What boat is this?

Great stuff! Glad you're still havin fun...

I'm doing all the same sort of stuff on mine at the moment... not finished yet but the 'maiden' is to be next week!

Jon
 
WARNING: Ancient thread resurrection!

As It's been just over a year, I'd post up another update.
We gave her a thorough clean and paint/varnish. Replaced some ropes, and some rigging, but not much. The jib very surprisingly cleaned up, and after using it in the heavy winds a fortnight ago, is fine!
Mrs Philthy has become more confident onboard, and gladly sets to with rope work or mooring/berthing. She was initially a little nervous as she thought the boat would simply "blow over" when the wind blew. A couple of weeks ago, we had the gunnels in the water,and she now realises that Msida is a lot more stable than she thought. We have only managed to mess about on the Lyme bay coast, the biggest problem being a new job for me, which is long hours.
The 10hp outboard which came with her, had to be treated as untrustworthy, and it turned out not to be, but the addition of a stern mount and an auxillary saved the day. 4hp isn't enough to bash her against the tide on the Exe, so as with all boating, timing of tides has been important.
We have only used the roller jib and main so far. We have a spinnaker, genoa, and storm jib, but haven't used them, as we're not confident about using them. The ability to reef quickly has proved useful, especially a fortnight ago !
The main engine was 10hp suzuki sail drive, which was massive. The engine dragged so much in the water, I was physically unable to tilt the engine back while under sail. This can't have been good for our cruising speed? It will be replaced next season with a short shaft, so it can be retracted into the engine well.
We've already realised that we are going to need something a little bigger if we are going to spend more time onboard. I'm 6'2", so it's a squeeze. Strangely, the bunks fit me well, and I sleep like log!
We haven't had the best conditions this summer,as you all know, but are already looking forward to getting her out of the water, and tweaked before next season.
Anyway, here's an updated photo:
Brixham marina a couple of weeks ago.
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We both realise that we need to take some lessons. I've learned some things the hard way, which means they will stick, but need professional/experienced advice. Trimming the sails seems like a dark art at the moment, and having spent most of the season with the wind coming out of our destination, is important.

All in all, we have thoroughly enjoyed ourselves, and met some lovely people, along with a few snobby idiots, but then that's life! We've assisted in a mayday, and sampled the camaraderie that surrounds nautical types, seen seals and dolphins, and some beautiful sunrises/sunsets. We've done all this, and not used the 5 gallon can of fuel we started out with yet!
Got to love this cheap sailing lark eh? ;)





.........oh! For the record, a small danforth will hold nicely against 4 knot tide, and 30 knot wind. I speak from experience :)

Fair winds..............
 
Philthy said:
This yacht may be coming up for sale, and I'd like to find something out about it.
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Thanks in advance.
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Kingfisher 20, as others have said. Very old now, but very well built for their day - ie quite heavy layup of ortho resins, structural side well engineered, so should be good for a fix-up job.
 
My Jaguar 21 has an outboard well with, coincidentally, a longshaft suzuki. It too hits the ground but as the mooring is mud it seems not to be a problem, it just sinks in a couple of inches. It's certainly doesn't support the weight of the boat at all and I can put my hand underneath it easily. The mud doesn't reach the middle of the prop so it isn't getting into any bearing surfaces. It gurgles a bit when sailing but doesn't seem to slow me down enough to warrant lifting out. It looks to me like the props on inboard engined boats are at least as low, probably lower. I think the shortshaft I use on my dinghy would barely reach the water (although I haven't tried it).
 
CreakyDecks said:
My Jaguar 21 has an outboard well with, coincidentally, a longshaft suzuki. It too hits the ground but as the mooring is mud it seems not to be a problem, it just sinks in a couple of inches. It's certainly doesn't support the weight of the boat at all and I can put my hand underneath it easily. The mud doesn't reach the middle of the prop so it isn't getting into any bearing surfaces. It gurgles a bit when sailing but doesn't seem to slow me down enough to warrant lifting out. It looks to me like the props on inboard engined boats are at least as low, probably lower. I think the shortshaft I use on my dinghy would barely reach the water (although I haven't tried it).
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This was the sail drive, which is even longer than a longshaft. Under good sail, the turbulence in our wake was quite noticeable, and the prop was "windmilling". I imagine trying to dip my full leg into the water while doing 4-5 knots would be hard work, if not impossible? It must have an affect on hydrodynamics surely? 1 knot would have made a big difference for us this season. I measured the short shaft engines we have, and they all have the cavitation plate below hull level. Not much, but how much is necessary?

It's all been useful info and experience for our first year. Next season will see us going a little further, and gaining more experience. She will be on a trailer outside our house soon, and then we can start on the jobs/shortcomings we have found this year. Luckily, the list is short.
 
I'm sure it must make a difference (or my boat wouldn't come with a blanking plate to cover the bottom of the well for racing) it's just that I don't feel it slows me down enough to warrant giving myself a hernia lifting that ridiculously heavy lump out of the well :rolleyes:
Actually I feel that my rudder is causing more drag, I can feel it vibrating when I get any speed up. The top pintle is a bit loose, one of a long list of things to sort out this winter :)
 
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