What a strange choice of photograph
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Skylark
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They're both going in the drink. The guy with half toe on the pontoon and one foot in mid air will make the first splash. Her bare foot will land on the cleat and she'll fall backwards in agony. Isn't that the point of the shot? What ever you need, the friendly marina team has it covered. They'll be along in a jiffy to pluck 'em out.
Strange, indeed.
Strange, indeed.
Captain Haddock
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Bare foot too... No way would I let my crew jump off that far away and with no shoes on.
Simondjuk
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They'll make it. I also rather suspect they're sailing on. Look at the boom.
Elessar
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Strange yottie affection this leaping lark.
No one gets off my boat till it's tied up. Matters not if I'm on a saily boat or a stinker. Is it a hangover from the days when engines didn't work? Generally speaking they do now!
I agree with the OP though. If if you do like leaping for some bizarre reason, barefoot and that far is an accident waiting to happen. But then so is leaping at all......
Athene V30
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No leaping off my boat either. If I cant step off I go round again.
Seajet
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As well as being too far away, barefoot and heading for a cleat, another reason against leaping onto pontoons is that quite a few risk one going straight through !
I never put crew in that position, usually they should step ashore from the widest bit of the boat, where there are shrouds to steady oneself first.
I never put crew in that position, usually they should step ashore from the widest bit of the boat, where there are shrouds to steady oneself first.
onesea
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I wish I could be so certain about my approaches being 100% correct every time, with an easy escape routes to turn around and try again... Although I never plan an approach that requires anymore than a step...
I do not like leaping I try not to encourage my crew to leap, in fact I always make sure they know not to step (or jump) unless 100% sure they will make it.
I will stand up and say that I am not perfect, there are times where myself or my crew have had made a larger than planned step onto the pontoon (and on one occasion when single handed to get back on my unmoored boat!)...
Are you sure it will happen to you..
I think you might be right...
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SeamanStaines
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We have a simple rule. No one gets off the boat until it is tied up.
prv
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How do you tie it up, then?
I can certainly agree with the idea that the boat should always be placed alongside so that crew can gracefully step down. I am also familiar with the reality that it doesn't always happen like that.
But I cannot see how you can always tie up your boat without getting off it. Maybe at your home berth, if you have low freeboard and conveniently placed cleats, but not as a general rule.
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Simondjuk
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I think that 'secured' is what is meant by 'tied up'. We generally drop a midships line over a cleat and motor against it, then, once the boat is settled happily alongside, step ashore to make the breast lines and springs.
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I used to be rubbish at coming along side, but I'm better now that I've learned the rule "don't turn away until you think you are going to crash", in other words, a couple of metres off. It helps to have someone on the foredeck giving you a signal, obviously not a woman.
phanakapan
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I used to be rubbish at coming along side, but I'm better now that I've learned the rule "don't turn away until you think you are going to crash", in other words, a couple of metres off. It helps to have someone on the foredeck giving you a signal, obviously not a woman.
hem hem. I'm the skipper. I'm the one usually on the helm when 'parking'- I'm better at it than my crew. oh btw I'm a woman.
We normally do the midship spring thing, but we are often in strange ports/marinas; we have a fairly high freeboard- just getting off involves a leap/very big step anyway. We are used to having to leap a bit. However if I have novice crew I tell them I would rather crunch the boat than crunch them, and not to step off until we are near enough.
Elessar
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I agree you need to put someone ashore if there is no bollard, post or cleat, so riverbanks when you're driving stakes in, rings, or french cleats. This I would do away from the berth if its a tricky one and let the person walk round.
Otherwise you lasoo. My wife can get a cleat from about 10 feet, much further than anyone can leap and usually within my window of berthing incompetence.
SeamanStaines
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We have a couple of advantages in that we are on a Catamaran that is very maneuverable and a combination of high free board with slipper sterns so lots of places to attach. Generally we will lasso a cleat, or I have a clip device to thread a ring and a snap shackle line as a backup. I can generally put the stern close enough to make for easy attachment and then, once that line is secure use the engines to take us along side. With the engines still running we then attach the second line and 'bingo'
I don't think I have has anyone have to get off the boat before securing in the last two or three years and we are permanently cruising. When we have had to we have done that at a more convenient point (like a marina fuel berth) and got them to walk around.
Med more is similarly easy, back in, lasso or thread the cleats then secure both stern lines and engage forward gear on the engine opposite the location of the lazy line. retrieve the lazy line and attach, same the other side, engage reverse gear and tighten the stern lines.
In my time sailing I have seen two very nasty accidents with people falling in between the wall, pontoon and being crushed by boat fortunately with no one badly injured but so easily could have been.
If I cant do it without risk (which I consider leaping of is) then I would call up the marina and get help. If not then go somewhere else. Of course the real trick is to find a berth to leeward of you and simply wait
AndrewB
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Since SWMBO's had problems with her knees, it's always her on the helm, me on the climbing off. I have to admit that she makes a better job of it than I used to.
If there is a male self-appointed 'helper' around, we've got used to her being given v-e-r-y- s-l-o-w a-n-d s-i-m-p-l-e instructions as to when to turn etc, which I never got. And it's me that gets referred to as "captain" (if there are a bunch of men aboard, it'll be the one on the helm who gets addressed as "captain").
On the other hand, its quite exceptional that a woman offers to help, even if she's standing right by. Jealousy?
If there is a male self-appointed 'helper' around, we've got used to her being given v-e-r-y- s-l-o-w a-n-d s-i-m-p-l-e instructions as to when to turn etc, which I never got. And it's me that gets referred to as "captain" (if there are a bunch of men aboard, it'll be the one on the helm who gets addressed as "captain").
On the other hand, its quite exceptional that a woman offers to help, even if she's standing right by. Jealousy?
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Well it is more "enjoyable and relaxing" than, bungee jumping.
I hope the lady does not land in any bird guano.
Lakesailor
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I think you have all missed the point. Whether they do this as a regular comedy routine or not, why is it the featured on the Marina site at all?
Similarly the shot on the facilities page seems to suggest they are not generous with their berthing
That's the only two pages I looked at and both have rather less than inviting images. They have named the above image "sunset-dining" but to my mind someone looking at a marina will be more concerned with the berthing.
I'm guessing they built their own web site (or chose all the content) and ought to have left it to someone with a bit more marketing know-how.
Similarly the shot on the facilities page seems to suggest they are not generous with their berthing
That's the only two pages I looked at and both have rather less than inviting images. They have named the above image "sunset-dining" but to my mind someone looking at a marina will be more concerned with the berthing.
I'm guessing they built their own web site (or chose all the content) and ought to have left it to someone with a bit more marketing know-how.
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Croak
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They have this quote in the safety section.
"Please take particular care on the pontoons when wet or icy as they can be slippery, please avoid running on the pontoons and always ensure appropriate footwear is worn."
"Please take particular care on the pontoons when wet or icy as they can be slippery, please avoid running on the pontoons and always ensure appropriate footwear is worn."
Seven Spades
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Some silly replies here.You can't secure the boat in Cherbourg without stepping off, you have to thread the line through a hoop to secure the boat. hat is notpossible without first stepping off. I am sure there are lots of other examples too.
