apward
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If you're loooking for an experienced delivery crew down the east coast then I can help. Have a crew that delivers inverness to W Mersea last 3 years. We'd love to help a fellow east coaster out!
We've done it! Sigma 38
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benw
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PeterWright
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Hi Ben,
Congratulations on a great purchase. You've probably sorted the delivery now, but my choice would be to spend a week up on Clydeside with the family sorting things by cruising around - you'll only really find what's not right by sailing her. Then, send the family home and get a couple of sailing mates for a delivery trip. For me delivery doesn't mean stop every night, particularly if you are crewed up.
We used a similar plan to deliver our Moody 425, bought in 2010 on Gareloch, back to Harwich. As we bought her in partnership with another couple, we started the delivery trip with just the two men doing 4 hour watches. We set off at 4pm, having done a commissioning test on the autopilot (one of the bits that needed sorting) so stopped off at Kip the first night. The next two stops were Howth and Falmouth, where we picked up one extra crew member, then Lymington, where we collected a circuit board to make the instruments work (they still didn't!) and a fourth hand. Next stop Harwich via LSH rather than Foulgers as we had no Echo sounder. All fitted in a week.
Although it was early May, the hills around Gareloch were still snow covered and we didn't see less than F6 until we left Lymington, max was NNW F8 in the Irish Sea. So it was a bit chilly, but we got to know the boat well, and it gave us immense confidence in her seakeeping ability. Just seemed too good an opportunity to miss.
One last thing. Make sure everybody who sails with you is aware of the low boom on your new boat. A frend of mine, now sadly passed away, Had to be helicoptered off a S38 with a serious head injury and spent many weeks in Broomfield hospital, so no standing up in the cockpit when you gybe!
Peter Wright
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Congratulations on a great purchase. You've probably sorted the delivery now, but my choice would be to spend a week up on Clydeside with the family sorting things by cruising around - you'll only really find what's not right by sailing her. Then, send the family home and get a couple of sailing mates for a delivery trip. For me delivery doesn't mean stop every night, particularly if you are crewed up.
We used a similar plan to deliver our Moody 425, bought in 2010 on Gareloch, back to Harwich. As we bought her in partnership with another couple, we started the delivery trip with just the two men doing 4 hour watches. We set off at 4pm, having done a commissioning test on the autopilot (one of the bits that needed sorting) so stopped off at Kip the first night. The next two stops were Howth and Falmouth, where we picked up one extra crew member, then Lymington, where we collected a circuit board to make the instruments work (they still didn't!) and a fourth hand. Next stop Harwich via LSH rather than Foulgers as we had no Echo sounder. All fitted in a week.
Although it was early May, the hills around Gareloch were still snow covered and we didn't see less than F6 until we left Lymington, max was NNW F8 in the Irish Sea. So it was a bit chilly, but we got to know the boat well, and it gave us immense confidence in her seakeeping ability. Just seemed too good an opportunity to miss.
One last thing. Make sure everybody who sails with you is aware of the low boom on your new boat. A frend of mine, now sadly passed away, Had to be helicoptered off a S38 with a serious head injury and spent many weeks in Broomfield hospital, so no standing up in the cockpit when you gybe!
Peter Wright
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benw
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Thanks Peter. Sounds like your trip was a fab experience.
Indeed the crew will be briefed in full re boom which has been a bit of an issue with my good wife from deciding on the S38. I believe the cruising sails tend to give the boom slinky more air draft but this is yet to be tested.
We have had an interesting experience post survey as a few elements came up which need sorting. However having agreed a figure we have done it. About 5 weeks of work I believe with repairs and Sigma chain plate to hull bonding mods all being done up in Kip and we will be able to get her down to the Orwell.
So I guess we own a boat again it's just a heck of a long way away and I will be shedding Stirling like there is no tomorrow!
Oh the joys of boat ownership.
May be when we launch the weather will have sorted itself out!
Indeed the crew will be briefed in full re boom which has been a bit of an issue with my good wife from deciding on the S38. I believe the cruising sails tend to give the boom slinky more air draft but this is yet to be tested.
We have had an interesting experience post survey as a few elements came up which need sorting. However having agreed a figure we have done it. About 5 weeks of work I believe with repairs and Sigma chain plate to hull bonding mods all being done up in Kip and we will be able to get her down to the Orwell.
So I guess we own a boat again it's just a heck of a long way away and I will be shedding Stirling like there is no tomorrow!
Oh the joys of boat ownership.
May be when we launch the weather will have sorted itself out!
PeterWright
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Hi Ben,
Sorry to hear you got some costly surprises from the survey. I have always made offers for boat purchase subject to survey and, on this occasion, the vendor, because he owns a boat yard, promised to rectify every defect the surveyor identified.
By the time he read the survey report, I suspect he regretted that. There were quite a lot of minor bits and pieces, but the key issue was that he did not know the age of the standing rigging, so the surveyor required replacement. Being soft touches, we agreed to split the cost with him on the basis that we were getting brand new rigging which we had not expected.
Commissioning on the Clyde identified further faults (cockpit instruments, autopilot motor) which the vendor also rectified, so those magic words, subject to survey, were worth their weight in gold.
Remember them next time around, mean time, enjoy the big Sigma. Whereabouts will you base her? We're at Suffolk Yacht Harbour.
Peter Wright
Sorry to hear you got some costly surprises from the survey. I have always made offers for boat purchase subject to survey and, on this occasion, the vendor, because he owns a boat yard, promised to rectify every defect the surveyor identified.
By the time he read the survey report, I suspect he regretted that. There were quite a lot of minor bits and pieces, but the key issue was that he did not know the age of the standing rigging, so the surveyor required replacement. Being soft touches, we agreed to split the cost with him on the basis that we were getting brand new rigging which we had not expected.
Commissioning on the Clyde identified further faults (cockpit instruments, autopilot motor) which the vendor also rectified, so those magic words, subject to survey, were worth their weight in gold.
Remember them next time around, mean time, enjoy the big Sigma. Whereabouts will you base her? We're at Suffolk Yacht Harbour.
Peter Wright
benw
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Hi Peter,
Yes indeed we did state offer subject to survey which resulted in a substantial reduction on the offer to cover all of the elements identified so we haven't really lost out. I was prepared to make improvements and it has fallen on the right side.
The owner who is abroad didn't have the ability to get all these things sorted so conceded.
We are Royal Harwich YC, But a fellow forumite has very kindly offered use of his mooring which we will occupy whilst he is across the pond. We are looking at longer term options for next year and will probably over winter up in the Haven initially. It may be we can have a club mooring next year but deep water moorings are seldom available but this will need to be negotiated.
Luckily all standing rigging is one year old, engine has been overhauled, new racing sails, HD radar and chart plotter,newntacktick wind, new teak cockpit etc so at least some elements are completed.
The weather at the mo is making us feel slightly fortunate however feel for everyone else. Maybe we will enjoy Aug, Sept and Oct with sun and fair winds.
Yes indeed we did state offer subject to survey which resulted in a substantial reduction on the offer to cover all of the elements identified so we haven't really lost out. I was prepared to make improvements and it has fallen on the right side.
The owner who is abroad didn't have the ability to get all these things sorted so conceded.
We are Royal Harwich YC, But a fellow forumite has very kindly offered use of his mooring which we will occupy whilst he is across the pond. We are looking at longer term options for next year and will probably over winter up in the Haven initially. It may be we can have a club mooring next year but deep water moorings are seldom available but this will need to be negotiated.
Luckily all standing rigging is one year old, engine has been overhauled, new racing sails, HD radar and chart plotter,newntacktick wind, new teak cockpit etc so at least some elements are completed.
The weather at the mo is making us feel slightly fortunate however feel for everyone else. Maybe we will enjoy Aug, Sept and Oct with sun and fair winds.