westerly pembroke

[dylanwinter]

we shall see gentlemen

she is in great nick and has an excellent engine

one stop at tescos on the way to the boat to buy food and cooking stuff and she is ready to roll

D

 

[Storyline]

Reckon the location is key when it comes to the price achieved. Made a big mistake when we sold our Pentland. She had a new engine, new boom with slab reefing, new roller reefing, new standing rigging, newish electric windlass etc etc. However she was a bit cosmetically tatty down below. Sold her through an excellent brokerage but it was up in Scotland and miles away from people who wanted a low priced bilge keeler. Asked for £17k and got £11k. If she had been for sale in an Irish sea harbour I reckon we could have got £14k ish

My guess (fwiw) for Harmony is £6-7k but if there are any competing boats with newish engines further south then that could drop to £5k

 

[mike h]

You wanna borrow my trailer D?

 

[Kelpie]

Is there a price below which you would decide to keep her instead, Dylan?

 

[dylanwinter]

Is there a price below which you would decide to keep her instead, Dylan?

yes....

but she will go at the price I expect.... which is somewhere between the initial price and something a bit south of that.

A bloke is going to see her next week.... he has been watching the films and says that he knows more about Harmony than he knew about the last yacht he owned.

The engine is a goodun on Harmony. Low hours, immaculately maintained.

i do not want to hang onto her because no-one needs two yachts - just keeping her ashore is a £1000 a year habit

and I can always buy another Centaur - and I think that they are exccellent boats

I was really impressed with the way she dealt with the rough stuff around Scotland

D

 

[JumbleDuck]

My guess (fwiw) for Harmony is £6-7k but if there are any competing boats with newish engines further south then that could drop to £5k

I've suggested that he advertise her round the Solway a bit if the Clyde doesn't generate sufficient interest. Bilge keeling is very popular here!

 

[prv]

I suspect the majority of boats in the Solent will have a deeper keel than this boat or do you know something we don't?

And nearly all those boats will be owned by people who can afford to keep them in a deep-water marina. Such people are not interested in buying a £3000 old Westerly.

People who might buy a £3000 old Westerly will be keeping it somewhere cheap, and in the Solent that means shallow, quite possibly drying. Under those circumstances, why would they buy a fin version rather than one of the many twins?

Pete

 

[dylanwinter]

I've suggested that he advertise her round the Solway a bit if the Clyde doesn't generate sufficient interest. Bilge keeling is very popular here!

I am assuming (maybe wrongly) that the web will reach most of the potential buyers

 

[Storyline]

I am assuming (maybe wrongly) that the web will reach most of the potential buyers

It does but the problem we found was that people just did not want to travel as far when there were competing boats around the Irish Sea where the big market for bilge keeler is on the west coast. However you are luckier being on the Clyde as we were 100 (slow) miles further north. Also, you have the big advantage of all the publicity your blog brings.

ps, agree with your assessment of her sea worthy characteristics - a proper tough sea boat !

 

[dylanwinter]

It does but the problem we found was that people just did not want to travel as far when there were competing boats around the Irish Sea where the big market for bilge keeler is on the west coast. However you are luckier being on the Clyde as we were 100 (slow) miles further north. Also, you have the big advantage of all the publicity your blog brings.

ps, agree with your assessment of her sea worthy characteristics - a proper tough sea boat !

i did consult widely and asked if I would get a better price in the south - the answer from the scottish contingent was probably not - and moving her down to the solent would cost me the thick end of a 1K. I brought her down to the Clyde because there are one heck of a lot of yachts there

There are a lot of Centaur knockers on here

in my experience they are great boats

an average passage speed of 4.1 knots between Chichester harbour and Edinburgh is not bad

the accommodation is astonishing in a 26 footer

she has a superdry cockpit

blimey I will be selling the Minstrel at this rate

however, there are a lot of bridges to go under

 

[theoldsalt]

Ebay won't allow furriners to open the link.

Try "hotspot shield". Download and install to change/hide your location. http://hotspot-shield.en.softonic.com/

 

[bitbaltic]

i did consult widely and asked if I would get a better price in the south - the answer from the scottish contingent was probably not - and moving her down to the solent would cost me the thick end of a 1K. I brought her down to the Clyde because there are one heck of a lot of yachts there

There are a lot of Centaur knockers on here

in my experience they are great boats

an average passage speed of 4.1 knots between Chichester harbour and Edinburgh is not bad

the accommodation is astonishing in a 26 footer

she has a superdry cockpit

blimey I will be selling the Minstrel at this rate

however, there are a lot of bridges to go under

Bigger tidal ranges will help with those bridges though. I wouldn't underestimate the boat you'll need to get from Caernarfon to round land's end. The centaur suits this perfectly but either way looking forward to seeing you in our neck of the woods in good time

Cheers

 

[Jcorstorphine]

i did consult widely and asked if I would get a better price in the south - the answer from the scottish contingent was probably not - and moving her down to the solent would cost me the thick end of a 1K. I brought her down to the Clyde because there are one heck of a lot of yachts there

There are a lot of Centaur knockers on here

in my experience they are great boats

an average passage speed of 4.1 knots between Chichester harbour and Edinburgh is not bad

the accommodation is astonishing in a 26 footer

she has a superdry cockpit

blimey I will be selling the Minstrel at this rate

however, there are a lot of bridges to go under

I am not a Westerly Centaur knocker, quite the opposite in fact as I was looking at the two yachts I mentioned but walked away as I felt the original asking price was too high as the boats were not exactly pristine.

I can however give my own experience with selling a 1979 Westerly Pentland ketch based on the Clyde back in 1998.

We bought it in 1992 in reasonable condition (with a second hand Volvo MD2B fitted as the original MDllC had broken a crankshaft in the mid 80's) for £21,00

The yacht was originally based on the East Coast and then migrated to the Solent and from then up to the Solway with it being sold to us at Troon.

I loved the bilge keel Pentand as it was a joy to sail and so easy to handle the boat ashore by just propping down on a couple of sleepers and not having to worry about winter gales blowing it over. (we kept the boat in a private club boatyard so we had to do all the work of hauling out etc)

Sadly in 1998, we sold the yacht which was now immaculate in every way. We had put an electric windless, a furling gear and an autoplilot which the total cost was around £1000 (all bought at jumble and a fire sales) but we got £25,000 for it with it being purchased by a chap from the Bembridge in the Isle of Wight as he wanted a bilge keeler. We did get some enquiries from local people on the Clyde but when they realised that the Pentand was a bilge keel they lost interest.

I think there is a reluctance to buy Bilge Keel boats on the Clyde and West of Scotland as there is the perception that they don't sail well but as I said earlier, I thought the Pentand was a great family boat and most important, it never scared my good lady. That why I was looking at Centaurs albeit a bit smaller.

Good luck in the sale of your boat.

 

[langstonelayabout]

it's only got one leg, it will fall over when the tide goes out.

But half the legs = twice the speed, right?

I'm sure this boat was on ebay a couple of years ago and I called the owner to view prior to bidding he told me he'd sold it.

Shame as it looks nice, but I ended up with a similar boat (again, with one faster leg) that lives in the Solent. Deep water does cost more than drying but it lives on a pontoon that I can access 24/7 rather than two and a half hours either side of high water.

Would I ever move back to the dark side with bilge or lifting keels? Of course I will, but not yet...

 

[Storyline]

i did consult widely and asked if I would get a better price in the south - the answer from the scottish contingent was probably not - and moving her down to the solent would cost me the thick end of a 1K. I brought her down to the Clyde because there are one heck of a lot of yachts there
.....

Remember that thread and my reply at the time. There just isn't the tidal range north of the North channel for bilge keelers so if it had been me I would have taken her to the cheapest yard on the Lancashire/cumbria coast so she is near the huge number of potential buyers in the Merseyside - M/cr - Leeds strip. It may still be worth considering if you do not get many viewings by late spring.

(Also agree with the thoughts expressed above about the bilge keeled Pentland - 20 fantastic years with ours and although like Harmony she was a bit of an ugly duckling she sailed really well and took us to places that Storyline just cannot go. Having had both I now think a fin keeler is better for the Western Isles though).