Wells

Achilles owners discuss endlessly how to stop the noise from the outboard in the well, how to reduce the drag from the well, how much would it cost to install an inboard, what a pain it is to move the outboard from cabin to well, where to store the outboard in the boat, etc.

Against that, we feel smug when inboard folk snag rope round the prop; with an outboard you simply lift the engine out.

We are hoping to go to Dylan's gig on the 11th, we'll try to persuade you against cutting up your Centaur….
 
dylanwinter said:
well since you ask

my 315 mm diameter pipe with 400mm of water in it will account for a loss of boyancy equivalent to 28 litres

or about the weight of a fat labrador

when I remove the engine and associated gubbins then I will be losing at least 250 kg or ten labradors

so come join the cockpit party and please bring either a labrador or a bag of gravel

D
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Is the labrador supposed to block the hole when the motor's away for repair?

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I deliberately left out the apostrophe in bum's. Really.
 
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Salty John said:
I thought you meant Wells, not wells. You have to get over this obsession with having outboards inboard. It's not healthy, Dylan.
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Great place is Wells.
Used to live not far away and visited often.

Wells in boats are not great. Do you drive your car with the handbrake on?
i had a well on my 26 ft trailer yacht for 15 HP Honda.
What a drag!
Closed it in and tried an OB Bracket. Had to hang out the back of the boat to operate or change gear. Also aerated something bad. No good at all.
Installed on transom with rudder linkage. Getting the linkage right is the key. Under motor I often drive the boat with the rudder blade fully up. Under sail the motor is tilted completely above the water. Either way manoeverabilty is the envy of my friends.
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(Second best thing is transom gate.)
good luck
 
dylanwinter said:
well since you ask

my 315 mm diameter pipe with 400mm of water in it will account for a loss of boyancy equivalent to 28 litres

or about the weight of a fat labrador

when I remove the engine and associated gubbins then I will be losing at least 250 kg or ten labradors

so come join the cockpit party and please bring either a labrador or a bag of gravel

D
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Dylan

I recently had the equivalent of 10 very fat labradors (NW forumite lurker and chums) come and visit our boat for a "Tea Party".
Our waterline was just up to the underside of the cockpit sole but nobody got their feet wet.

So using reverse logic and a highly trained mind and after hours of mathematical calculus I reckon a Centaur without an engine is going to float about 4 inches higher at the stern approx.

You will need to train your ten Labradors to stay in their correct places.:)

We carry:
up to 2 labradors of water in moveable containers
Up 2 labradors of fuel .
Beverley travels light with about a labrador for luggage :rolleyes:
Our FB store and Beer Cellar probably weighs in at a Labrador and a half on average.
Our dinghy weighs about as much as a labrador or two and is under the cockpit sole
Our dink/back up 2Tlabrador is in an aft locker.
Our kedge labrador and chain is in an aft locker

I am sure that you can train all your labradors to remain a little further astern and you will get the trim back.:)

Alternatively you could contact some Forumites and get them to crew as dead weights.....

Steve
 
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this is on a 4t Benford 30
 
I have lost the plot on the well proposal, so everyone accept my regrets if this has been said:

The Sabre 27 is a similar sort of size to the Centaur and Ken Endean has sailed his all over the shop with a 10hp outboard. I could be wrong but I think he just hangs it on the back.

I had a Marieholm IF Boat with a well in the lazarette and I think it is possibly the best arrangement for a boat under 30ft. If I won the lottery I would have built a 30 foot version of this design mainly by simply plussing up every dimension by 25%; including the well into which I would put a 5hp 2 stroke outboard. The lazarettes are wide enough to stow the outboard horizontally and a blanking plug keeps the whole spot dry. On this style of boat the lack of push is negated by the handiness of the design.
Without doubt, the biggest inconvenience I felt were the fumes which cause a problem in a still or following breeze. The further the engine can be removed from the living accommodation the better.

I am also bone idle, so would fix the outboard on the back. I would also be tempted to have a word with Mr Endean about the matter
 
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Dylan

Like many others I think you're mad, but I also want you to succeed. As a symbol of my faith in your sheer pig-headedness I have made my long overdue posh-coffee level subscription to KTL and look forward to a ring side seat at the successful launching of KTL II.

Will you be referred to as Caractacus Potts, marine division?
 
dylanwinter said:
please sir

your well has both a bar and a window

what are they for?
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The bar and pulley arrangement is for starting the engine (the pulley is normally in the middle). Cheaper than the vertical starter conversion Tohatsu sell and more universal.
The window is just for monitoring the engine and providing additional ventilation if needed. Easier to get at the kill switch too but I'll probably change that and put it somewhere in the cockpit. It's just two wires after all. Well and a switch obviously.
 
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