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Listening to the short weather reports on BBC 5live this morning it was the first time I have ever
heard them mention wave height in such short reports. Said to expect 50 foot waves on W Scotland coasts.
Glad we're not in Dunstaffnage :D
 
Rockall
Gale warnings - Issued: 0352 UTC Tue 9 Dec

Storm force 10 veering westerly soon, increasing violent storm force 11 later
Shipping Forecast - Issued: 1030 UTC Tue 9 Dec

Wind
Southwest 7 to severe gale 9 veering west storm 10 or violent storm 11.
Sea state
Very rough or high, becoming phenomenal.
Weather
Squally wintry showers.
Visibility
Moderate or good, becoming poor.

No one's mentioned the word hurricane :D
 
Sandyman said:
Rockall
Gale warnings - Issued: 0352 UTC Tue 9 Dec

Storm force 10 veering westerly soon, increasing violent storm force 11 later
Shipping Forecast - Issued: 1030 UTC Tue 9 Dec

Wind
Southwest 7 to severe gale 9 veering west storm 10 or violent storm 11.
Sea state
Very rough or high, becoming phenomenal.
Weather
Squally wintry showers.
Visibility
Moderate or good, becoming poor.

No one's mentioned the word hurricane :D
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Yes they have:-)

East Northern Section
Storm warning issued 9 December 08:00 UTC (Open)
At 090000UTC, complex low with centres 63 north 36 west 940 and 65 north 32 west 948 expected single centre 63 north 18 west 945 by 100000UTC. Winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 between 50 and 500 miles of the centre in the southern semicircle throughout and hurricane force 12 between 100 and 300 miles to the south of the centre. Northerly or northeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 to hurricane force 12 in Denmark Strait and the northwest of north Iceland throughout and in the far north of West Northern Section until 100200UTC. Northerly winds will also reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in the northwest of East Northern Section from 091500UTC. Southerly or southeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in Southeast Iceland until 090900UTC, in Faeroes and the southeast of north Iceland until 091200UTC, in Norwegian Basin until 100000UTC.Go to top of page
Wind
Westerly severe gale 9 to violent storm 11, increasing hurricane force 12 for a time.
Sea State
High or very high, becoming phenomenal.
Weather
Squally wintry showers.
Visibility
Moderate or poor.
West Northern Section
Storm warning issued 9 December 08:00 UTC (Open)
At 090000UTC, complex low with centres 63 north 36 west 940 and 65 north 32 west 948 expected single centre 63 north 18 west 945 by 100000UTC. Winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 between 50 and 500 miles of the centre in the southern semicircle throughout and hurricane force 12 between 100 and 300 miles to the south of the centre. Northerly or northeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 to hurricane force 12 in Denmark Strait and the northwest of north Iceland throughout and in the far north of West Northern Section until 100200UTC. Northerly winds will also reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in the northwest of East Northern Section from 091500UTC. Southerly or southeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in Southeast Iceland until 090900UTC, in Faeroes and the southeast of north Iceland until 091200UTC, in Norwegian Basin until 100000UTC.Go to top of page
Wind
Westerly severe gale 9 to violent storm 11, increasing hurricane force 12 for a time.
Sea State
Very high or phenomenal.
Weather
Snow or squally snow showers.
Visibility
Moderate or poor, occasionally very poor

Denmark Strait
Storm warning issued 9 December 08:00 UTC (Open)
At 090000UTC, complex low with centres 63 north 36 west 940 and 65 north 32 west 948 expected single centre 63 north 18 west 945 by 100000UTC. Winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 between 50 and 500 miles of the centre in the southern semicircle throughout and hurricane force 12 between 100 and 300 miles to the south of the centre. Northerly or northeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 to hurricane force 12 in Denmark Strait and the northwest of north Iceland throughout and in the far north of West Northern Section until 100200UTC. Northerly winds will also reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in the northwest of East Northern Section from 091500UTC. Southerly or southeasterly winds will reach storm force 10 or violent storm force 11 in Southeast Iceland until 090900UTC, in Faeroes and the southeast of north Iceland until 091200UTC, in Norwegian Basin until 100000UTC.Go to top of page
Wind
Northerly 5 to 7, occasionally gale 8 in far north, otherwise northeasterly backing northerly, severe gale 9 to violent storm 11, occasionally hurricane force 12, decreasing 5 to 7, becoming variable 3 or 4 later in west.
Sea State
High or very high, becoming rough or very rough later in west.
Weather
Snow becoming mainly fair in west later.
Visibility
Poor or very poor, becoming good later in west. Severe or very severe icing until later, with temperatures ms05 to ms08.
 
Sandyman said:
Tks for that :D I was meaning no news weatherman has used the word Hurricane.
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They should not have done. It was not a hurricane. Really, it is all Admiral Beaufort’s fault when he finalised the wind scale that bears his name.

A hurricane is a tropical storm in the Atlantic and Eastern Pacific. In other parts of the world they call them Typhoons or Tropical Cyclones. Beaufort used the word to describe force 12 on his scale.

Although Beaufort quite rightly got the credit for getting the scale adopted by the RN initially it was not his invention. A very similar scale was in use by the East India Company when Beaufort was a young man. They used pictures of sea state to help describe what force was appropriate. That scale had even earlier beginnings and there were a number of other scales in use of varying degrees of discrimination. One even had only four points.

Beaufort’s achievement was to give formalised descriptions and, importantly, get it used for consistency.
 
I've always thought that Beaufort's reference to 'hurricane force' meant 'wind speed equivalent to that which might be experienced in a hurricane'. Semantics maybe.
 
ghostlymoron said:
I've always thought that Beaufort's reference to 'hurricane force' meant 'wind speed equivalent to that which might be experienced in a hurricane'. Semantics maybe.
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Yes. He never said it WAS a Hurricane. Simply describes the level of wind you would find in one.

Doesnt make any difference to modern reporters. if Hurricane force is mentioned then it IS a Hurricane as far as they are concerned.
 
ghostlymoron said:
I've always thought that Beaufort's reference to 'hurricane force' meant 'wind speed equivalent to that which might be experienced in a hurricane'. Semantics maybe.
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Yes. Correctly speaking a radio or TV weather person should usually be talking about "hurricane force" wiinds and not a "hurricane." Going back with some trepidation to October 1987, Mike Fish was quite correct to say that there would not be a hurricane. He and Bill Giles were correct in saying that the winds would be strong. The Met Office got it wrong in not predicting hurricane force winds.
 
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