"Voyaging on a small income"

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I find the new "London" salary levels and bonuses worrying as it will in time create a new underclass A london bank worker gets £800.000pa and expects and gets at least £1.6 millon bonus and the bonus should double every year!!!Thats why sailings becomeing expensive and boats bigger!!!

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True - but when the eventual cruch/reality check comes - it will, nothing lasts for ever - all these nice, big boats will be going begging for peanuts.
Of course, this will then [--word removed--] up the second hand market.
 
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This post has had almost but 3 short of 1500 replys!From that can we asume that this is a subject of interest?

I hope others will still post as so far no one has given any idea of the cost of crusing in the UK!! Perhaps its to cold and wet??????

Or are all those French just accross the water braver when it comes to sailing weather????

Im sure if Sweden dident freeze there would be a few sailing all year!!Could put skates on the keels???
 
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This post has had almost but 3 short of 1500 replys!From that can we asume that this is a subject of interest?

I hope others will still post as so far no one has given any idea of the cost of crusing in the UK!! Perhaps its to cold and wet??????

Or are all those French just accross the water braver when it comes to sailing weather????

Im sure if Sweden dident freeze there would be a few sailing all year!!Could put skates on the keels???

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The cost of cruising in the UK is.....................expensive. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
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This post has had almost but 3 short of 1500 replys!From that can we asume that this is a subject of interest?

I hope others will still post as so far no one has given any idea of the cost of crusing in the UK!! Perhaps its to cold and wet??????

Or are all those French just accross the water braver when it comes to sailing weather????

Im sure if Sweden dident freeze there would be a few sailing all year!!Could put skates on the keels???

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I suppose that cruising UK waters, can cost as little or as much as you want it to? There are still plenty of cheap/free anchorages and harbours around, just stay away from areas like the Solent (generally speaking), or the posh yotty areas. and marinas of course!

The cheaper areas tend to be ones that are half tide or drying, but if you have a bilge keeler, you can take full advantage of that. In my opinion, the Northwest of Scotland, is a stunningly beautiful place to put in some time, though probably not in the winter, unless you are particularly hardy /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ireland too is a lovely cruising area. The Welsh coast ditto. The East coast has a lot to recommend it, with lovely places to visit such as Woodbridge and the like. Though some of the water on the East Coast is a bit thin.

As for cruising the UK in winter? Hmmmmm, well, you will need a good heater, preferably one that gives off a dry heat, such as a solid fuel stove. There are good sailing days to be had during the winter, but in this area ( North Devon, Cornwall and Somerset) not that many. also, we don't have many harbours that are accessable at any state of the tide, so if you do get caught out, you will just have to lump it.

Just my two pennarth.
 
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Today i was wondering if i should sail next year accross to the UK?Havent been there for years!Dont suppose its changed much though?I did sail out of Maldon a while ago and run aground a lot!

What about summer? The UK cant be that expensive??Can it?? Afterall there is coast line all around the UK which thankfully for you is keeping the euro out!

As i said in France i anchord in a bay, then later in rivers and ALWAYS the capitain arrived with a demand for payment!!!That could NEVER happen in the UK nor even England!

There are soooo many rivers and bays it just cant be possiable that someone couldent just find a plesent anchorage and stay for a while without charges???
 
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Your Folkboat, (of which I have always been a fan by the way) is what is going to determine mostly where you can go, but yes there are, is the short answer to your question. I would recommend that if you want to avoid some bugger with his hand out, that you keep clear of the south Devon coast and the south coast for that matter. The west coast of Scotland, Wales, will provide you with loads of quiet and free anchoridges. To be fair, some Marinas charge very reasonable rates to visitors, I was only charged £20 a night at Falmouth Marina, which I didn't think was too bad, but I wouldn't want to make a habit of it. Like you, I am not wanting to line somebody elses pockets with my limited and hard earned cash.
 
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To go back to the very beginning - my favourite part of Annie Hill's book is that she reproduces, in full, a short story from the 1930s by Weston Martyr called The £200 Millionaire, about a chap who lives on his 30-footer, mainly on canals but also sometimes on the sea. For those of you on Annie Hill-type budgets it is also available on the internet at http://www.out-of-the-blue.info/200quid.html.

Clearly budgets, borders and politics have changed hugely since the story was written, but is still both charming and inspirational. It was when I re-read it one January day almost three years ago that we decided to sail to the Med... although sadly we ended up with a boat too deep to go through the canals /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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Link just comes up Error 404?
 
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Thats a pity 404 as well Wales sounds nice?

I did a search for the £200 millionair and the link given opened with the text havent read it yet but i dont think its the whole book.
 
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Thats a pity 404 as well Wales sounds nice?

I did a search for the £200 millionair and the link given opened with the text havent read it yet but i dont think its the whole book.

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Wales is very nice, grand scenery, and some lovely wee harbours, have you got beaching legs, or short fat hairy ones? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif Standby and I will try and put you together with someone who cruises there.

I have just PM'd Searush, he may pop in to give you some info re Wales? /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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Thanks David, I Googled it, and there are a couple of sites about it, been looking at one, very interesting and of course very dated, but none the worse for that,

Charlie.
 
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yep, that's the one I found on Google :-)
 
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There are soooo many rivers and bays it just cant be possiable that someone couldent just find a plesent anchorage and stay for a while without charges???

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Smiffy just bin & rattled my cage!

Now, I wouldn't dream of suggesting that you could ever get out of harbour fees by arriving after the harbour master has gone home & leaving before he arrives, but I have heard that some people do it!

Most free anchorages aroun N. Wales can be very (I mean VERY) exposed in some conditions and somewhat short of facilities like shops/ water/ loos etc. You also need to be able to deal with BIG tides (7m neaps, 10m springs) and drying harbours. There are often a few visitors moorings or vacant local moorings that can be used short term and sometimes they are free. For a Folkboat, the Menai Straits offers a number of deepwater moorings that can be laid relatively cheaply by locals but you will need a reliable motor for dealing with the Swellies passage. Holyhead (Anglesey) is a good harbour for deepwater and not cripplingly expensive and offers good access to Ireland, Isle of Man, but the Seacat ferries create an evil wash that will knock mugs off your galley table. Costs in harbours tend to be around £9-10 pernight. I think marinas are about double that but I never use them so I can't be sure.

Best place for long term, low cost, cruising is Scottish West Coast & Islands. small tides, many sheltered anchorages fabulous scenery and many small harbours/ jetties near small towns. Most anchorages and many small quays/ jetties are free. Only reason I don't cruise there is it is 300 miles away.

Best bet for you is to have enough money to cover half the time in paid harbours & then ask locals for their recommendations for a "few days of peace & quiet". The come back to a harbour to restock on food, get a shower & research the next hideaway. Many of the South-East areas have lovely drying creeks & swatchways but you will need to have a strategy for drying out in deep mud!
 
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To go back to the very beginning - my favourite part of Annie Hill's book is that she reproduces, in full, a short story from the 1930s by Weston Martyr called The £200 Millionaire, about a chap who lives on his 30-footer, mainly on canals but also sometimes on the sea. (cut)

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Also worth a read is Shane Acton's "Shrimpy" & "Shrimpy Sails Again" probably out of print now, but very popular paperbacks in the 70's-80's. Shane was a 6' plus marine who sailed around the world in an 18' plywood bilge-keeler (Caprice I think).

Now THAT'S a budget liveaboard! For part of his second voyage he even had a statuesque blonde girlfriend abaord with him. Both books are an excellent read.
 
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Shrimpy, not only out of print, but selling for silly money. Used paperback on Amazon UK for £63, and good quality signed or first editions go for hundreds.
If anyone ever see's one in a secondhand bookshop for less than £20 and in reasonable nick, just snap it up.

I've been scouring second hand bookshops for about 4 years now trying to find a copy.
 
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Shrimpy, not only out of print, but selling for silly money. Used paperback on Amazon UK for £63, and good quality signed or first editions go for hundreds.
If anyone ever see's one in a secondhand bookshop for less than £20 and in reasonable nick, just snap it up.

I've been scouring second hand bookshops for about 4 years now trying to find a copy.

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Some here for very silly money

We are only three posts away from 100 on this thread, come on lets be 'aving you.
 
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OK, if Shrimpy costs a fortune (no, I'm not selling my copy) how about the Tristan Jones books? Always working to a tight budget and the most bl**dy-minded person I have ever come across (even for a Welshman /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) even if his stories are 60% yarns there is lots of common sense in his stories.
 
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