volvo penta d3 turbo problems
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andejack
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D3-190 Disaterous Experience
My experience with the D3-190 was a disaster from day one. It spent so much time in the shop with a variety of oil leak, overheating problems, etc. that I was not able to spend time on the boat or put hrs. on the engine during the warranty period. When I finally failed at 97 hrs. I was, in effect told "too bad, it is out of warranty." Although it had been regularly serviced and inspected by authorized repair facilities and there was no definitive dertermination about what had happend, there was next to no consideration from Volvo Penta, other than to sell a new engine at essentially cost. My loss when all was said and done was nearly $10,000! I would not wish my experience on anyone, except Volvo Penta executives. Thankfully, a sympathetic dealer took it off my hands and I have a wonderful new boat with a beautiful Yanmar engine. Good luck to the new owner, whoever he or she may be, as well as to anyone else unfortunate enough to own a Volvo Penta product.
My experience with the D3-190 was a disaster from day one. It spent so much time in the shop with a variety of oil leak, overheating problems, etc. that I was not able to spend time on the boat or put hrs. on the engine during the warranty period. When I finally failed at 97 hrs. I was, in effect told "too bad, it is out of warranty." Although it had been regularly serviced and inspected by authorized repair facilities and there was no definitive dertermination about what had happend, there was next to no consideration from Volvo Penta, other than to sell a new engine at essentially cost. My loss when all was said and done was nearly $10,000! I would not wish my experience on anyone, except Volvo Penta executives. Thankfully, a sympathetic dealer took it off my hands and I have a wonderful new boat with a beautiful Yanmar engine. Good luck to the new owner, whoever he or she may be, as well as to anyone else unfortunate enough to own a Volvo Penta product.
Monique
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I flew aircraft with RB211 and I assure you the surges were not solely because of salt encrustation... most of it was a "pants" RR design. The RB211-524 variant were far better but still not as food as the GE CF6 as installed on the Boeing 747-400.
In my experience... others could vary!
Monique
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They are not all bad. The D22 series is Perkins based derived from truck engines. Gotta watch out for the turbos... they have to be run hard once in a while to get the turbo cleared of deposits.
Latestarter1
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MMMM........'The D22 series is Perkins based derived from truck engines'. Perkins Prima was good little donk, however I would be hard pressed to to describe LDV Freight Rover as a truck! Bit like sticker on the back of van 'When I grow up I want to be a Kenworth'.
Prima based on British Leyland 'O' Series produced on out of date Austin tooling, Perkins did the head and to be fair did a commendable job, one of the very first direct injection LDA engines in the World.
rafiki_
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I had a Montego truck with this engine. Was always aware that it was running, must have been the noisiest engine ever
Latestarter1
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I had a Montego truck with this engine. Was always aware that it was running, must have been the noisiest engine ever
Montego estate with Prima. Had a request from service director to put Montego diesel estate on the list for our service engineers, my boss went potty! Cummins uses Perkins powered cars for their service engineers, what a gift for Perkins PR people!
I solved the problem, gave service engineers Mercedes 190D's actually same price to lease as Montego, problem fixed, that was until Mercedes purchased Detroit Diesel, oh well start over.............
rafiki_
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Ummmm. I was at Land Rover at the time, Mercs were not on the scheme.
Racingfrank7
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If turbo(s) are blowing then this must surely be a over heat problem be it oil, water or misuse.
If its just a lack of performance from said turbo then quite rightly said by VP a VNT / wastegate / actuator problem is more liklely followed by ecu override.
Just my 2p worth from the automotive industry that is now dealing with VNT problems weekly on all makes.
If its just a lack of performance from said turbo then quite rightly said by VP a VNT / wastegate / actuator problem is more liklely followed by ecu override.
Just my 2p worth from the automotive industry that is now dealing with VNT problems weekly on all makes.
mil1194
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I had a Montego truck with this engine. Was always aware that it was running, must have been the noisiest engine ever
OT - but my father's business business partner insisted on running the Montego Countryman 'Prima?' TD (Perkins? engine) while my old man was running Mercedes 300TE's. I am sure that the Montego was cheaper on fuel but they did 100k's easily and on their head did monotonous motorway miles easily. I also have reason to believe that the speedo came out of the Montego easily and was reduced by 200k and a little note was left (Got here before you ;-) They were not quiet by any means but were ultra reliable in the Montego and the Maestro Diesel Turbo Van (which I had the misfortune to run for a few views thanks to my father- not sure they were usual but a lot of bits left at our local dealer...!) Horrible thing but cheap on fuel, ran like hell and fast as f**k - and proved ultra reliable.
Funnily our Mercedes 300TE's did half the economy, but a lot more comfortable and quiet and used to pull a lot more than the Montego/Maestro as my father was taking my brother to uni in Durham most weekends from Cardigan West Wales across many mountains and motorways. Wonder why we had the Merc. and still runs one across the continent to Eastern Europe every few months. (Aparently my A6 isn't up to the job.....)
Back to the point - those Primas were as solid as the best IMHO as long as the marinisation was right but never gathered any following...
mil1194
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Again OT - sorry - BUT client bought a 190D for £x. - this was 1992
Neighbour bought a Sierra 2.3d (with elec windows/roof etc) which the Merc didnt have for the same £x as the 190D. 10 years later Sierra was scrapped at MOT and the bill for the MOT 190D was for a battery - and their son is still driving the 190D 2012- you cannot compare chalk with cheese.
mil1194
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Cummins diesel lumps
We are in an agricultural area of Wales and use huge amounts of Case MX110, IH 5150/Pro/Maxumm machines and they all use (as far as I am aware) a 6cyl 5.9 Cummins 6cyl engine - approx 125hp with a turbo.) We (our friends/group of 10people) who have extensively driven these machines with balers/mowers/towing 14tonne trailers etc recon. these machines/engines - with the abuse of all different drivers piloting then are some of the best in the business. Admittedly with the abuse we give them they do not exceed 3000rpm they regularly exceed 10,000hrs without a spanner touching them (gearboxes excepted). I would think that TK would have an idea how they react with bus drivers but i do not believe that bus drivers are softer than us agricultural contractors! When ex-SWMBO wanted a truck to tow her and the boys ponies etc the only option was a Dodge Ram with a 5.9 Cummins - there was no chance of her having a little 3litre TD to play with - ie Nissan/Ford etc - and the first time I introduced her to one on the field there was no choice to made (to my poor book....) but she and the boys have a good truck to 'play with' with no repair bills....
Out of all the lumps we see fitted to boats etc as long as it has twin Cummins suited to relatable marinising kits to it's length/girth then it would be better than any other apart from MAN.
We had fabulous service over 30 years from various MAN engines and would rate then higher than Cummins - from 80hp up to about 700 in various uses we had from from but never marinised and never 'abused' in the way that the Cummins were as the MAN were effectively 'owner/driver.'
We are in an agricultural area of Wales and use huge amounts of Case MX110, IH 5150/Pro/Maxumm machines and they all use (as far as I am aware) a 6cyl 5.9 Cummins 6cyl engine - approx 125hp with a turbo.) We (our friends/group of 10people) who have extensively driven these machines with balers/mowers/towing 14tonne trailers etc recon. these machines/engines - with the abuse of all different drivers piloting then are some of the best in the business. Admittedly with the abuse we give them they do not exceed 3000rpm they regularly exceed 10,000hrs without a spanner touching them (gearboxes excepted). I would think that TK would have an idea how they react with bus drivers but i do not believe that bus drivers are softer than us agricultural contractors! When ex-SWMBO wanted a truck to tow her and the boys ponies etc the only option was a Dodge Ram with a 5.9 Cummins - there was no chance of her having a little 3litre TD to play with - ie Nissan/Ford etc - and the first time I introduced her to one on the field there was no choice to made (to my poor book....) but she and the boys have a good truck to 'play with' with no repair bills....
Out of all the lumps we see fitted to boats etc as long as it has twin Cummins suited to relatable marinising kits to it's length/girth then it would be better than any other apart from MAN.
We had fabulous service over 30 years from various MAN engines and would rate then higher than Cummins - from 80hp up to about 700 in various uses we had from from but never marinised and never 'abused' in the way that the Cummins were as the MAN were effectively 'owner/driver.'