Volvo MD30 what is the base engine block

scottie said:
Having been in the factory and watched a very Nordic young lady torqueing up the timing case with a pneumatic wrench is still a very strong image in my mind please accept that the md30 is an all Volvo engine and not a bought in unit
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If you take a good look at an MD22 you will see that the waterpump is different as well as the intake and exhaust and alternator mounting from the donor engine, which in this case is a Perkins Prima/Montego which was developed from a BL petrol engine. VP will have taken the base engine, cast/fabbed their own ancillary parts to suit and assembled the unit at their factory.
Likewise the MD20x0 series engines were developed form a small industrial range of engines, if you look at the bottom right hand side of the engine, you will see Perkins Japan, cast in to the block. Again the marinisation is carried out by VP and presumably assembled at their factory. The Pug engine, with the alloy head was used in the 80s? and as another poster has pointed out was designated the MD31.
So you may have seen blondes with torque wrenches screwing together engines in the factory, BUT in all probability they were assembling units from bought in base engines! The trick is to find out which volume manufacturer made the base unit and THEN you can source spare parts a lot cheaper!
Stu
 
Stu

You are right about the sources of the engines you list. However, the MD30 engine the OP is asking about is different from the MD31 - just looked at the parts manuals on the web and they are clearly different. Pretty sure the 31 is the Peugeot base and the earlier one a Volvo.

No doubt the OP will report back after he visits the boat today.
 
Tranona said:
Stu

You are right about the sources of the engines you list. However, the MD30 engine the OP is asking about is different from the MD31 - just looked at the parts manuals on the web and they are clearly different. Pretty sure the 31 is the Peugeot base and the earlier one a Volvo.

No doubt the OP will report back after he visits the boat today.
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Stew
Yes, I understand that, the point I was making, (and we are involved in the inevitable fred drift) is that a the vast majority of base engines that we are talking about are basically made elsewhere. The majority of AWBs have a small VP engine in them. In the 90s and early 10s, anything up to 30hp would be a 20x0 series, anything above that was the MD22 or latterly the D2 55, the base engine of which I have yet to discover, I believe Juggler has figured it out?
Stu
 
31 is a later version of 30 both 4cylinder Volvo based units. Peugot 4cyl is the 21 and just to cause confusion md32 is 6cylinder peugot but kad32 is based on Volvo block
D2-55 is a 2ltr 4 cyl from the same perkins range 1st known as 2030 etc now called d1-30 etc


It gets rather confusing as Volvo does change the the way it names engines from time to time

D30 is the smallest engine not to be exclusive to marine use
 
scottie said:
31 is a later version of 30 both 4cylinder Volvo based units. Peugot 4cyl is the 21 and just to cause confusion md32 is 6cylinder peugot but kad32 is based on Volvo block
D2-55 is a 2ltr 4 cyl from the same perkins range 1st known as 2030 etc now called d1-30 etc


It gets rather confusing as Volvo does change the the way it names engines from time to time

D30 is the smallest engine not to be exclusive to marine use
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Scottie has got it with the alloy headed Pug based units. Don't know about the 30/31.
Dave
 
Compact series

Why am I wasting my time


2010- d 55 were originally called the compact series
10 hp 2 cyl
20&30hp 3 cyl
55&75 hp 4 cyl

Now designated by capacity & HP. So now D1-10 etc
 
scottie said:
Why am I wasting my time


2010- d 55 were originally called the compact series
10 hp 2 cyl
20&30hp 3 cyl
55&75 hp 4 cyl

Now designated by capacity & HP. So now D1-10 etc
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The MD2010 - MD2040 were one series, with them being 3 cylinder except for the 2010 which was 2
http://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7740690-21-4009.aspx
as I said 3 cylinders
http://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-explodedview-7744440-21-5301.aspx
as I said 4 cylinders and a completely different series and still listed as such http://www.marinepartseurope.com/en/volvo-penta-schematics-MarineDieselEngines.aspx
Now what is it you were saying?
Stu
 
islecastle1 said:
Never said it was. Scottie is totally correct in his reference to the ally headed pug based engines.
Dave
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I stood corrected on the pugs, no argument there, BUT hes full of kaka in relation to the MD20X0 range, D2-55 is a 2ltr 4 cyl from the same perkins range 1st known as 2030 etc now called d1-30 check out the links dear boy!
The MD20X0 range didnt include a 4 cylinder engine!
Stu
 
skipper_stu said:
I stood corrected on the pugs, no argument there, BUT hes full of kaka in relation to the MD20X0 range, D2-55 is a 2ltr 4 cyl from the same perkins range 1st known as 2030 etc now called d1-30 check out the links dear boy!
The MD20X0 range didnt include a 4 cylinder engine!
Stu
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Never mentioned them either.
And don't patronise me with the 'dear boy' stuff.
Dave
 
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yes you are correct 2040 was 3cyl


Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

MD2040A Diesel Inboard 40 3 1993 1994

MD2040B Diesel Inboard 40 3 1995 1998

MD2040C Diesel Inboard 40 3 1998 2000

MD2040D Diesel Inboard 40 3 2000 2005





however

Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

D2-40 A Diesel Inboard 38 4 2005 2006

D2-40 B Diesel Inboard 38 4 2006 2008

D2-40F Diesel Inboard 38 4 2008
d2-55 is
Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

D2-55 A Diesel Inboard 53 4 2001 2005

D2-55 B Diesel Inboard 53 4 2004 2005

D2-55 C Diesel Inboard 53 4 2004 2006

D2-55 D Diesel Inboard 53 4 2006 2007

D2-55 E Diesel Inboard 53 4 2007 2008

D2-55F Diesel Inboard 53 4 2008


look here for details
http://www.volvopenta.com/VOLVOPENT..._ENGINES/Pages/out_of_production_engines.aspx

now can we just wait and see what OP comes back with
 
scottie said:
yes you are correct 2040 was 3cyl


Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

MD2040A Diesel Inboard 40 3 1993 1994

MD2040B Diesel Inboard 40 3 1995 1998

MD2040C Diesel Inboard 40 3 1998 2000

MD2040D Diesel Inboard 40 3 2000 2005





however

Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

D2-40 A Diesel Inboard 38 4 2005 2006

D2-40 B Diesel Inboard 38 4 2006 2008

D2-40F Diesel Inboard 38 4 2008
d2-55 is
Type Fuel type Engine group Power (hp) Cylinder configuration Production start Out of production

D2-55 A Diesel Inboard 53 4 2001 2005

D2-55 B Diesel Inboard 53 4 2004 2005

D2-55 C Diesel Inboard 53 4 2004 2006

D2-55 D Diesel Inboard 53 4 2006 2007

D2-55 E Diesel Inboard 53 4 2007 2008

D2-55F Diesel Inboard 53 4 2008


look here for details
http://www.volvopenta.com/VOLVOPENT..._ENGINES/Pages/out_of_production_engines.aspx

now can we just wait and see what OP comes back with
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Can you not accept the fact that the D2 range has nothing to do with the 20X0 range?
Stu
 
It appears to have a cast iron head and raw water cooled it started first time on the key with a brief puff of black smoke which cleared in seconds with no trace of smoke thereafter and was chucking lots of water out too, it has beenserviced as per the book by a volvo dealer since new and was so clean you could have eaten your diner off it! The owner seemed to think it was all volvo but I have my doubts, I think it probably a peugeot block with volvo's own head. but it certainly looked almost as if it were brand new it was so clean. I checked that the engine was cold before it was started and also checked the temp gauge as well which was on the stops before slowly getting up to tempreture.I have to say i was impressed by its condition, even cchecking underneath for evidece of oil / leaks but iit appeared to be tight.
J
 
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