Victoria 22

Maybe misspelt and is a Victoire 22? According to Hoskyn's Yacht Directory "Long fin cruser/racer from Holland with good early race record. Built in wood from early 1960s, switched to GRP late 1960s. Cramped interior."

LOA 21' 8"
BEAM 7' 3"
DRAFT 3' 1"

p.s. Google will find you pics and info on the Victoire 22
 
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If it is the Victoire that draught of 3'1" seems a bit shallow for windward progress, and on the South Coast one can barely give away a 22' fin keeler due to the mooring / berthing costs being the same as for a much larger boat.

Never heard of a Victory under 26'.
 
Seajet said:
Never heard of a Victory under 26'.
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The Victory is an 18' clinker dayboat, popular in Portsmouth Harbour. Many are based in Haslar Marina after their club moorings were taken over to build it.

Victoria yachts made both 26' and 30' double-enders. From memory, I think the Victoria 26 was basically a chuck Payne Francis 26 with a longer coachroof.

I've no idea what a Victoria 22 would look like.
 
This is all I can find http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=28 also a 26' but cannot find a 22'.


Seajet said:
If it is the Victoire that draught of 3'1" seems a bit shallow for windward progress, and on the South Coast one can barely give away a 22' fin keeler due to the mooring / berthing costs being the same as for a much larger boat.

Never heard of a Victory under 26'.
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ferrispeterchris said:
Anyone heard of these yachts? There is one for sale on Gumtree (N.I.) but Google hasn't heard of it.
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Topcat47 said:
The Victory is an 18' clinker dayboat, popular in Portsmouth Harbour. Many are based in Haslar Marina after their club moorings were taken over to build it.

Victoria yachts made both 26' and 30' double-enders. From memory, I think the Victoria 26 was basically a chuck Payne Francis 26 with a longer coachroof.

I've no idea what a Victoria 22 would look like.
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Topcat 47,

yes I'm familiar with the Victory keelboats ( are you sure about clinker built ? ), and Chuck Paines' designs, I nearly bought a Victoria 30 in the days when the 26 had a smaller coachroof or flush deck and was a Frances, but this 22' mystery job is something else; quite likely the Victoire alluded to.
 
Seajet said:
Topcat 47,

yes I'm familiar with the Victory keelboats ( are you sure about clinker built ? ), and Chuck Paines' designs, I nearly bought a Victoria 30 in the days when the 26 had a smaller coachroof or flush deck and was a Frances, but this 22' mystery job is something else; quite likely the Victoire alluded to.
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Hi Andy, Topcat 47 is correct, they are indeed clinker - I used to crew on one a few years back... happy days.. :)
 
Fantasie 19 said:
Hi Andy, Topcat 47 is correct, they are indeed clinker - I used to crew on one a few years back... happy days.. :)
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Fantasie 19,

thanks, I was having brain fade thinking about the various keelboats, X-boats, Victorys, etc, as most of my dealings with them has been trying to avoid arrogant usually old gits trying to ram me if I presume to be on the same bit of water, from Chichester through Portsmouth to Poole !

Slightly different, but have you seen the book commissioned by the Swallow class ? A superb ' coffee table ' type book, loads of excellent photo's and traces the history of each boat, must have cost a fortune but sadly let down by the binding instantly falling apart on the example I had from Midhurst Library, I expect that was sorted.

Andy
 
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Seajet said:
If it is the Victoire that draught of 3'1" seems a bit shallow for windward progress.
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Somehow didn't stop it gaining a good race record, as mentioned above! (Apparently it won its RORC class 1963. Perhaps they had only downwind legs in their races in those days? ;-))


Seajet said:
.... and on the South Coast one can barely give away a 22' fin keeler due to the mooring / berthing costs being the same as for a much larger boat.
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Lucky the OP lives in Northern Ireland, then!
 
ferrispeterchris said:
Sorry I thought I'd replied after post 2. It's either me or the new improved forum. It is certainly the Victoire 22 many thanks. Bye the way I cannot find this Hoskynes Directory please elucidate.
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The version I have was bought years ago and is an old, typed and photocopied (foolscap, not A4!) publication listing yachts, with several volumes (each only a couple of dozen pages) e'g' sailing yachts under 25 feet, 25 to 32 feet, motor-sailers, etc. I believe it was compiled and published by a guy (Mr. Hoskyn?) who ran a brokerage at Rye. I bought it by post (how quaint that now seems!) directly from him.

It also says on the cover 'A - Z Good Yacht Guide', and there's a more recent publication called 'The Good Yacht Guide', which I believe is an updated version, and was recently still for sale (try Seachest Nautical Bookshop, for instance).

In the version I have there's not much information on each boat, but it lists many boats, including quite a few less well known ones, has given me hours of pleasure, and also enabled me to respond to a number of queries like yours on the forums.

P.S. I've just found there is a dedicated website for the guides, which are c£20 each - http://www.williamfranklin.com/goodyachtguide/
 
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LittleSister said:
It also says on the cover 'A - Z Good Yacht Guide', and there's a more recent publication called 'The Good Yacht Guide', which I believe is an updated version, and was recently still for sale (try Seachest Nautical Bookshop, for instance).

P.S. I've just found there is a dedicated website for the guides, which are c£20 each - http://www.williamfranklin.com/goodyachtguide/
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Update - Apparently they're now out of print.
 
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