Tim Good
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I'm still yet to hear why using wookskin means I have no pride in my boat.
Varnishing Toe Rail Capping - Best Practice?
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I'm still yet to hear why using wookskin means I have no pride in my boat.
Tranona
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See post #12 If you are ever in Poole, you are welcome to look at my boat. Sitting eating a late and outside the windows is the boom from the boat. 50 years old, taken back to bare wood and 3 coats of Woodskin. Looks a treat, better than at any time in the 35 years I have owned it.
sailorman
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That is only the opinion of one person.
itchenseadog
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I cant speak for Woodskin, its probably one of the only systems I havent tried. We did a Rampart 48 with Coelan about 5 years ago, the boat went down to the Med, where the extreme heat plays havoc with any finish. I have received reports that the brightwork still looks good. At the same time I used leftovers to coat up my oak house name sign and it is still as good as the day I coated it up. I also maintain a 1937 classic ketch which has teak brightwork. We use conventional Epiphanes varnish on this craft and annual maintenance is a case of scraping back any stained areas, patch priming 3 coats and applying 2 full coats of Epiphanes. More work but the results are exceptional.
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Tranona
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I have seen quite a lot of Coelan both here and in the Med. Always looks bit plastic and goes rather opaque with age. Downsides are cost, difficulty of preparation and application interest typical DIY context. Also if it does fail it comes off in sheets which man's a strip and recoat.
Woodskin seems to be the product particularly for the Ops cruising plans where the last thing he wants to worry about is keeping his brightwork bright.
Woodskin seems to be the product particularly for the Ops cruising plans where the last thing he wants to worry about is keeping his brightwork bright.
Swg
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Sanded teak cockpit and sole back to bare wood last spring - 5 v easy coats of Woodskin 1 per day's sh over a week. Used the boat, with children on E coast of Scotland and brought in last week. Looks perfect. Just stripped the bowsprit with the intention of doing the same
G12
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Have used woodskin myself on an iroko cap rail.... I've got to say I think it is the ultimate lazy man's varnish... Very easy to apply but takes ages to dry if cold - mine was soft three days later but got there in the end.
JumbleDuck
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Bizarre snobbery.
TimBennet
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It was a tongue in cheek comment that your request was on the Classic & Wooden Boat forum.
It's the sort of snobbery you would expect from asking there.
Woodskin might be a quick to apply, durable, easy to live with wood coating, but it isn't varnish.
If you're happy with the look, then it's possibly exactly what you are looking for, but Benjamin Mendlowitz is never going to put a close up of a Woodskin covered boat in his books or calendar.
Tim Good
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It is actually very difficult to find any images of what it looks like online. There are references in Google images but they all turn out to be something else. Maybe I'll do the cockpit table in it first.
TimBennet
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My instinct would be to use Woodskin on the toerail but varnish the cockpit table.
There's not much work in keeping a table looking good and it's the centre of your cockpit.
Horses for courses.
There's not much work in keeping a table looking good and it's the centre of your cockpit.
Horses for courses.
JumbleDuck
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It's a mixture of oil and varnish, innit?
Tranona
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No. Read the data sheet.
JumbleDuck
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Woodskin varnishes
A flexible wood oil/varnish hybrid that acts like a skin for your wood.
-- First lines of: http://www.yachtpaint.com/MPYACMDatasheets/Woodskin+eng+A4+Y+20141215.pdf
A flexible wood oil/varnish hybrid that acts like a skin for your wood.
-- First lines of: http://www.yachtpaint.com/MPYACMDatasheets/Woodskin+eng+A4+Y+20141215.pdf
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Tim Good
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Tranona
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Touche. Should have double checked.
JumbleDuck
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'Sok. It was just something I noticed when I was deciding whether to use it last year, and I don't think they widely promote it that way.
chal
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This is not high enough resolution to inspect the finish close up but all the wood you can see is finished in Woodskin - which obviously gets my vote too. Ok, you won't be blinded by the reflected sunlight (maybe that's a safety feature
) but it's easy to apply and, even better, easy to maintain. A previous owner used 2-pack varnish and it's dire: full of cracks and splits but still clinging on tenaciously - getting it off is the hardest job I've had to do, it's taken me years to get rid of and there's still some lurking in less visible places. I've seen some good results with Coelan but it's hard to apply, expensive and you can't do minor touch-ups with it because it goes off once you open the tin. It also can have a tendency to go milky when wet, though maybe that's an application issue.I suppose if there was one perfect solution we'd all be using it, but Woodskin is an easy-to-live-with compromise.
btw most of the wood you can see is teak but the toerail is iroko
www.yachtchal.org.uk
Tim Good
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Thanks! Have you had any problems with Iroko staining. Previous owner let my toes rails go a it and not have some dark staining in many places where water has got in. Once I strip the old varnish is there any magical way to get it back to a nice uniform colour?
itchenseadog
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Heavy sanding so that you actually remove wood may do the trick but if the iroko has stained black ther's very little chance of removing it.