value for money?

Depends what you want to do. Loads of people on here will tell you to offer twopence halfpenny and then walk away if your offer is not accepted.

If you love an old wreck and can afford to do it up, why not? You'll end up with what you actually want eventually. Or, you could wait around for all eternity for the 'right boat' to come along, then find you can't afford it.

If you are serious about having a boat, find one you like and buy it. So long as you can afford to do whatever needs doing.

I bought a boat that needed loads of work. It had a duff outboard that had to be thrown away and I had an inboard installed instead. All the repairs cost me a packet. I think there were many that thought me out of my mind at the time, but I am happy with the result and everybody tells me I have a lovely boat.

There were 'perfect' boats on the market, but I simply couldn't afford any.
 
My first thought was it sounded quite reasonably priced for the condition, then in one picture it look as though there has been damage/repair to the hull within the large surface of no antifoul there apears to be a crack or some kind of additional damage. If this is simply a paint issue then fine. However due to the asking price, i believe there is more to it than meets the eye, in terms of condition and structure.
 
Why dont you start by finding a really really excellent example of the same boat first ?
Now you have a sound benchmark from which to make informed comparison with other examples that aren't perhaps able to tickquite so many boxes.
Homework and research and an awareness of what might be about to fail or require replacement in order to satisfy insurance stipulations,is never time wasted.
 
It does look a lot of boat for not much money. Check the sails are in useable condition as replacements would be over a grand.The standing rigging is probably old but may do for now.

You can probably expect some osmosis in the hull but unless really bad wont affect the integrity of the hull in a solidly built boat like the SD.

I have had a number of old boats that needed a bit of work over the years and one thing ios certain ,it allways costs more than you expect in the long run.

For not a lot of money I think you could have a lot of fun with that boat but dont expect to make a profit or even break even if you sell her again.

You can insure third party only including wreck removal cover without a survey with the "Basic Boat Insurance "company. Its about 90 quid per year from memory for coastal waters up to 12 miles offshore.
 
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regardless of what i want out of a boat, and regardless of what you want outof a boat.

is this one value for money, if not, what would you offer?

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Bottom end for one of these is around 2000 - 2500, so I would go in there. A pristine example is worth around 9000, for reference.
 
tel, its in essex, I think around Burnham. If it is, I will go and look it over with you if you wish.

FWIW, I think just over 2.5k offer, watch him wince, get the hump, then slowly crank up to within shouting of 3k.
I can assure you that by the time you hit the water, you are looking at the thick end of 5k spent, providing the surveyor is reasonably sympathetic to its age.
 
im in dagenham so im not to good with the east coast area, the boat is in fambridge yacht haven, if that helps?

ive got a viewing on sat afternoon
 
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I think just over 2.5k offer, watch him wince, get the hump, then slowly crank up to within shouting of 3k.

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Have a look on www.yachtworld.com There are 5 for sale. The one you are going to look at is with two brokers, one at £4750, other at £3750. Rest vary from £5-9k, but have inboards of varying ages. Couple are on East coast so try to look at them as well.

Outboards are marginal on boats of this size, and probably fitted because the inboard failed and the boat is not worth the £4k to replace it. You may find that the stern gear is still there and you could refit an inboard, but you are back to economics.

Remember these boats are 40 years old, will have had lots of owners for a couple of years at a time. However, seems to have most of the kit needed to get afloat and gain experience, so provided no major flaws, good to start, provided you recognise that when you move on or give up in a couple of years time, you may have difficulty selling a marginal boat and be prepared to sell for less than you paid - the cost of learning.
 
When you are in the area there ia another at £4750 with Clarke & Carter T Burnham - you can compare the two and see wether it's a good buy or not. Always make an offer of about 75% of the asking price.
 
Initially it looks reasonable and much of it is original - I had one that was a good example and sold for £9300 with an almost new inboard engine. The fact that it has an outboard is a major factor in the reduced priced. It also appears not to have a cooker next to the sink. The pic of the cockpit showed it to be tatty which may be indicative of the whole thing in reality. Mine also had two quarter berths running in 'tunnels' either side of the forepeak. Can't see why this one different.

When looking for a new boat we saw quite a few before deciding on the best balance for us between condition and cost. As there are loads about please look at some others for comparison - this may be the best bargain but it may be just the opposite.

In good nick - a strong safe boat ideal for starters (although I know people that are keen and have had them for 20 years).
 
What is your problem? you have already posted about this boat here and been advised what to do. If you really want the boat , pay the money, other wise take the advise you have been given. As you have previously been advised the boat is NOT worth the asking price but obviously you are "in love" with it so go ahead. You are obviously looking for someone to say "yes - good deal" but it ain't - not at the asking price- The owner seems desperate to off-load it so go in at £2500 (or £2000 as someone else suggested) and see what happens. Remember ther are plenty of boats for sale out there so you have the choice.
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yeh but it seems to be you with the problem. no one else has complained. infact everyone on here has been rather curtious to me. im a first time buyer and im sure you was as aprehensive as me when you bought your first boat.
 
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