V.W. Diesels

[nordic_ranger]

I have just been speaking to a local (trusted) Broker who was at the L.B.S. He was telling me about the new V.W. range of diesels on show he did not have any literature on then but said they looked very impresive and looked well built and easy to maintain. He also said that they were far cheaper than the Volvo and Yanmar comparisions. Has anybody seen them comments please, does anybody know where I can get literature. V.W. always has in my opinion had a very good name. I have no conection with V.W.

Jim

 

[Forbsie]

Have a look at <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.volkswagen-marine.de/>Volkswagen Marine</A>

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.arweb.co.uk/argallery/forbsie?&page=1>My Project</A>

 

[kimhollamby]

Finning in Staffordshire has just been appointed UK distributor.

For contact details:

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kim_hollamby@ipcmedia.com

 

[kimhollamby]

Oh and forgot to say...

...that I've had a reasonable play with the five cylinder models and liked the engineering and service ideas. There's some amazement in the industry at Volkswagen entering the marine market at this time but the German HQ has some pretty determined types and some interesting technology to lean on (all VW Marine diesels are based on VW blocks as a policy).

You could eat your lunch off of the VW Marine factory floor. <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.ybw.com/ibinews/newsdesk/20020604234706ibinews.html> Click here for a story and pics</A> written for our B2B title IBI.



kim_hollamby@ipcmedia.com

 

[spannerman]

Had the V.W. rep from Germany over for a meeting, I was very impressed with the engineering, they have some useful features that Volvo and Mercruiser don't have, i,e, built in pre oiler, and oil change pump. They are designed to go with Mercruiser drives and gearboxes. All in all a very impressive range of engines.

 

[tr7v8]

Ummmm, I wonder what reasonable pricing will be?

The 150 would look good as a pair in the Draco!

Jim
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[Chris771]

They look really nice. I just wish that the 180 hp 5 cyl had been on the market last year.

 

[PeteMcK]

Any competition for VP is good in my view. But...the VW Marine website has a mention of the "on-board computer". Bosch black boxes are beginning to be the Achilles heel in some recent diesel cars (they don't like jump starts for one thing - causes permanent damage). I'd prefer the KISS approach in a boat engine.

 

[tr7v8]

But all modern diesels are going to have to have "black boxes" in order to A. comply with current and future emissions and B. to give the very high specific power outputs being demanded by todays users.
Mercruiser have had electronics for ages to whit D Tronic, Volvo have EDC, Cat have DDEC etc.
A bigger problem than jump starting is that fact a lot of these electronics stop working once the voltage drops putting more demand on having fully charged batteries.

As an aside does anyone know any prices for these units?

Jim
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[PeteMcK]

Black boxes

Hope they're more reliable than all the desk top computers I've ever owned. Anyway, a yacht auxiliary doesn't need a high specific output (and 40 hp in 200kg is not light, even by 1970s standards!) and, so far, boat emissions requirements are minimal to non-existent except in the more loopy countries. Marinised car engines are bound to go this way, though - catalysts too? More complication, more expense, minimal return.

 

[chippie]

Re: Yacht auxilliaries

I didnt think the VW range was aimed at the yacht market (except perhaps for larger yachts) . I thought the weights and power range would preclude this.

 

[tr7v8]

Re: Black boxes

I have current Volvo price list on desk and Volvo list 3-4 different emissions standards against the various yacht size engines so obviously it will be the coming trend.
Understand you're comment about specific output most of the smaller engines aren't high output but I suspect that will change once, because people will want smaller packages with the same HP.
Agree with other lister that most of the VW engines will be too big for average size yachts, I think they start at about 60HP.


Jim
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[J_Priedkalns]

I have been using a marinised automotive VW diesel since 1985 and have had no problems with the engine or any of the marinising parts that were supplied by Lansing Marine. The great part of this engine is the self bleeding characteristics, cheap replacement parts and the HP to weight ratio and most of all the reliability!

 

[boatmad2]

Re: VW engines

I am sure Lansing or ASAP supplies could come up with a kit to marinise one of these out of a car breakers. Isnt this diesel engine also fitted to Audi cars?.
Plenty of engines are available in the breakers Ive checked.

 

[Strathglass]

Re: Yacht auxilliaries

They are planning to introduce three cylinder models in the future so the power levels may eventually come down to yacht size.

Iain