US Navy in Portland - Straw Poll

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I found a little article among the front pages of the latest edition of MBY about the presence of the US Navy in Portland Harbour at some point this summer, which I found disticntly worrying; I wonder how many others share my concern?

A number of heavy transport ships were anchored there for some time and it was said they were very twitchy about the presence of small boats around the area and were issuing warnings over the radio to stay at least 400 yards away. Twitchy about small boats -- what do they expect at the height of the season on a very popular stretch of coast??!!

The article goes on further to say that, as the US found the location such a good potential base for their ships, they were exploring the possibility of establishing a more permanent presence there. However, they did not like the idea of small private craft sailing around the area -- (perhaps they thought they might be enjoying themselves!!) -- particularly motor boats. Such is their obvious paranoia about security it is said they might seek a very wide exclusion zone for their protection and "peace of mind".

Concern about security I can sympathise with after 9/11, but their attitude now goes way beyond that. Any moves to restrict the navigation of craft around the Weymouth Bay area or any other, beyond what might be reasonably expected in the vicinity of a naval base, must be very strongly contested. Apparently they have already imposed such restrictions in their own waters, with severe penalties for those who stray into closed areas. If they want to behave in such a bullying and intimidating manner, let them confine it to the other side of the Pond and not try and impose their own problems on the rest of us. If Portland is too busy for them, they should go find somewhere else more remote.

If the US is so keen on upholding the principles of "freedom and democracy", they need to remember that they are but only visitors to our shores and have no right to impose their own rules and regulations in our own territorial waters -- that can only be done by an Act of our own elected Parliament. So leave us alone Uncle Sam, stay out of our hair and sort your own problems out in your own back yard!

................ am I alone in this and worrying needlessly - or is there a silent majority out there?!

JR
 
I totally agree with you.

If they are desperate, Sandy Scott on Eel Pie Island has space for one more 7 mtr boat. But none of this 400 metre exclusion of course! /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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Now! If you were them would you want boats (unknown boat = unknown threat - unknown motorboat = even bigger threat) coming close to your ships?
Paranoia? Not at all, these are sensible security measures.
You have the whole of Weymouth Bay, what's wrong with even a two mile exclusion zone around theirs (and our) vessels? As far as your myopic "Yanks go home" stance and your final remark about sorting their own problems out attitude is concerned... this is beneath my contempt.

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Well said Byron. The editorial (this months MBY) well the first lines anyway seem to have a distinctly anti Amercan sound to them, I had'nt noticed untill I saw the editorial lines on the index page. I must go and read it.

It seems odd that the use of a Naval Port which would be of great benifit to Portland and really of little trouble to us by the USA, seems to be such a problem unyet the invasion by a seemingly endless stream of (fit young men of conscription age) assylum seekers across the channel (boating link to avoid deletion) is not greeted with the same attitude. We make life difficult for our friends who care what we say and appease our enemies who could not care less.


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I side with Byron here. They have a right to protect their ships, if they want to moor and set up facilities then it's great, a real boost for the local economy and a tourist attraction. So you need to keep clear oh well, it's not exactly going to be difficult surely?

Would you have complained if a water-ski area had been set up? Of a small dinghy racing zone - or are you just annoyed that it's the US and not the RN?

So you unscrew this, and put it safely here, then oopps...
All - IMHO, BTW, FWIW and NWGOI
 
We have an exclusion zone around our marina. It's called a fence!! But I'm not an American fan.

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Haydn
 
In my opinion, MBY should not have given locations of naval vessels, potentially this could put our forces at risk, and I don't think this thread should go much futher either. Especially after what has just happened.
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James
 
Historically the US been welcome here, why change it.

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Just look at the recent attack off the Yemen coast

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