Up to 50 containers lost from Napoli
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rebelae
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According to the BBC news video (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6283965.stm), it's now 158. Although about 40 are on the shore, and only 2 have hazardous cargo, so the risk is "minimal." Right up until you hit one of the other 116...
landaftaf
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and we now have the first 'oily-bird' piccy .......... here we go again huh /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
pvb
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The plot thickens...
Turns out the Napoli was previously called "Normandie" and was involved in a major high-speed grounding on a coral reef in Singapore in 2001 (details here). It was subsequently taken to Vietnam to be welded up. It was apparently quite a big job, as the shipyard which repaired it describes it on their website as "an outstanding achievement". Maybe the repair wasn't quite as outstanding as they thought.
Pic of the cracked hull (from BBC website):-
Turns out the Napoli was previously called "Normandie" and was involved in a major high-speed grounding on a coral reef in Singapore in 2001 (details here). It was subsequently taken to Vietnam to be welded up. It was apparently quite a big job, as the shipyard which repaired it describes it on their website as "an outstanding achievement". Maybe the repair wasn't quite as outstanding as they thought.
Pic of the cracked hull (from BBC website):-
Rustyknight
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and we now have the first 'oily-bird' piccy .......... here we go again huh /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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Just for you...... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
And to keep it boaty......... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
and we now have the first 'oily-bird' piccy .......... here we go again huh /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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Just for you...... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
And to keep it boaty......... /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
landaftaf
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tnx - I thought only one wasnt enough as well /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
Danny_Labrador
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Re: The plot thickens...
Also from the repairers web site :-
They centainly know how to enjoy themselves /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif (this is the bit where 200 fish food workers [female] met 200 ship yard workers [male])
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The management boards of both sides offered flowers and souvenir gifts to each other and wish their employees to have a true life partner they ever desire.
Wallowing in the atmosphere bustling with laugh, full of glint and mingling with singing voice, all of people present here understand that “Playing is not for playing…”, for them, at this rare time, having more friendship means that their life is full of happiness and memory.
Before saying goodbye, leader of HVS says to everybody like he says himself “any parties come to the end”, but surely it remains impression, which is difficult to be faded in hearts of the young workers. Parties like this help them happy, healthy, and optimistic in order to continue to dedicate to their jobs and make their best efforts for brilliant future.
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Also from the repairers web site :-
They centainly know how to enjoy themselves /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif (this is the bit where 200 fish food workers [female] met 200 ship yard workers [male])
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The management boards of both sides offered flowers and souvenir gifts to each other and wish their employees to have a true life partner they ever desire.
Wallowing in the atmosphere bustling with laugh, full of glint and mingling with singing voice, all of people present here understand that “Playing is not for playing…”, for them, at this rare time, having more friendship means that their life is full of happiness and memory.
Before saying goodbye, leader of HVS says to everybody like he says himself “any parties come to the end”, but surely it remains impression, which is difficult to be faded in hearts of the young workers. Parties like this help them happy, healthy, and optimistic in order to continue to dedicate to their jobs and make their best efforts for brilliant future.
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StephenSails
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I was wondering why they planned to take it as far as Weymouth in the first place, doesnt Plymouth or Falmouth have the facilities? They could have at least got her in to shelter in one of these harbours. I seem to remember there being quite a big dock in Falmouth when I was down there for Dame Ellens return
pvb
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Re: The plot thickens...
Sounds like a Google translation!
Sounds like a Google translation!
landaftaf
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portland is a port looking to be a port again
IMO the revelation that the vessel had already suffered a high speed grounding, and had been subsequently 'patched up' probably reached the authorities after they decided portland was a good bet ............
so - finally knowing the extent of the problem it was decided to try and unload the cargo in sheltered waters asap. this would reduce the stresses on the suspect hull, avoid pollution in open waters and the associated massive clear up costs if the ship had sunk in the channel.
in conclusion - finding out the hull had already suffered unknown but massive stress damage a few years before - after running up a reef at full speed, whilst pretty well fully loaded ....... they surmised it would probably break up at any time now the hull plating had failed
so beach it in sheltered waters to reduce the clean up costs and environmental damage
IMO the revelation that the vessel had already suffered a high speed grounding, and had been subsequently 'patched up' probably reached the authorities after they decided portland was a good bet ............
so - finally knowing the extent of the problem it was decided to try and unload the cargo in sheltered waters asap. this would reduce the stresses on the suspect hull, avoid pollution in open waters and the associated massive clear up costs if the ship had sunk in the channel.
in conclusion - finding out the hull had already suffered unknown but massive stress damage a few years before - after running up a reef at full speed, whilst pretty well fully loaded ....... they surmised it would probably break up at any time now the hull plating had failed
so beach it in sheltered waters to reduce the clean up costs and environmental damage
Rustyknight
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Having spent most of the day on the beach down there, I thought I'd catch up with the news "online".......
Amazingly, the Environment Agency isn't carrying the story at all; their "latest" news item being the lifting of hosepipe bans. Bloody ridiculous, I think...... though no doubt as it's the weekend, I dare say they all have better things to do.
Amazingly, the Environment Agency isn't carrying the story at all; their "latest" news item being the lifting of hosepipe bans. Bloody ridiculous, I think...... though no doubt as it's the weekend, I dare say they all have better things to do.
Rabbie
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I would like to think that the Navy could have some facilities to perhaps 'corral' the containers, or at least retrieve them as they float off the wreck to prevent not only possible pollution but a major danger to navigation. It seems ludicrious that the responsible authorities all stand back and shrug as all those containers disappear into the Channel!. Lumps of timber are bad enough, but that lot ......!.
Sixpence
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But it's the weekend and most Navy ships are tied up so they don't use too much fuel
Chris_Robb
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Just seen the pictures on the news of containers floating -some almost submerged and others still joined in a stack. Sureley anyone putting a line on them and towing them in can claim salvage! The police have apparently cordoned off the shore where a number of containers have come ashore - surely it is ones right between high and low water to claim anything?
Rustyknight
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We were a little suprised to see 4 vessels around the ship this morning, just going slowly round and round in circles....... during this time, we saw at least 6 containers fall off the stern and drift away to the east.
Nothing was done to round them up and tow them away (can this be done?) so I dare say they'll wash ashore on Chesil beach sometime..........
Nothing was done to round them up and tow them away (can this be done?) so I dare say they'll wash ashore on Chesil beach sometime..........
Sixpence
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another thread on that , in case you hadn't seen it /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1319336/an/0/page/0#1319336
http://www.ybw.com/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1319336/an/0/page/0#1319336
clyst
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She is too big for Falmouth but as you say Plymouth/ Devonport would have been big enough . I guess its all down to the salvers where they could get the best deal . I guess money is more important than the environment to some .
Bergman
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Is it normal to set upa 3 mile exclusion zone for "low risk" hazards.
There seems to be an unusual level of precaution being taken for a few bottles of perfume.
I love a conspiracy theory and there has to be one in this somewhere.
There seems to be an unusual level of precaution being taken for a few bottles of perfume.
I love a conspiracy theory and there has to be one in this somewhere.
halcyon
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We don't want your rubbish, we have enough troubles already.
Try DML at Plymouth.
Brian
Try DML at Plymouth.
Brian
clyst
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"surely it is ones right between high and low waterto claim anything"----- Including boats on tidal moorings ???? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif