Unwanted Prize- Fairline Targa 38

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I think you have taken a very tough decision...and made the right one. That Targa 38 will cost an arm and a leg to run.

Best to sell her straight away and then put say 1/2 in a pot to buy a boat and run her for 3/4 years...i.e. free boating!

I look forward to the 'What boat shall I buy' posts in a few weeks time!

Cheers

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This is certainly a consideration- either upgrade my trailer fishing boat or buy something nice for the inland waterways. Living where I live (Warwickshire) that's the most likely outcome!
 
Congrats LJ on your win. Sad to hear you can't keep her, but the £££ proceeds will buy you a boat if you want one and be generally helpful I'm sure

I dont at all want to rain on your parade but the price asked by EBY is optimistic. I'd budget on getting less. A colleague here in the office bought a new T38 about a month ago, to be built to his spec, delivery this summer, for £258k but with £46k of Med spec options (airco, teak deck, passerelle, genset, etc etc) so without those options it would have been 212. Hence 210 for yours is quite high
 
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Congrats LJ on your win. Sad to hear you can't keep her, but the £££ proceeds will buy you a boat if you want one and be generally helpful I'm sure

I dont at all want to rain on your parade but the price asked by EBY is optimistic. I'd budget on getting less. A colleague here in the office bought a new T38 about a month ago, to be built to his spec, delivery this summer, for £258k but with £46k of Med spec options (airco, teak deck, passerelle, genset, etc etc) so without those options it would have been 212. Hence 210 for yours is quite high

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Sounds like the price is spot on rather than high?
 
Well yeah it's pretty much the same price but your boat is technically secondhand and moreover, very few (almost none) boats are built to basic spec. Most have some combination of airco, teak deck, passerelle, especially if headed for the Med. And nearly all are ordered with D6 not D4 engines. £40k of extras on a T38 is definitely not unusual, and £100k on the bigger Fairlines is quite normal. So a boat with zero extras is a bit awkward. The market for it will be quite a bit thinner than for a boat with D6 and normal list of extras. And many of the the extras cannot easily be retrofitted.

Hey I'm conscious that I'm typing doom and gloom and raining on your parade. Sorry, I dont mean to do that - you did a great job winning the competition and I'm jealous! I was just simply saying it how I see it re EBY's asking price of £210. Best of luck though :-)
 
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Well yeah it's pretty much the same price but your boat is technically secondhand and moreover, very few (almost none) boats are built to basic spec. Most have some combination of airco, teak deck, passerelle, especially if headed for the Med. And nearly all are ordered with D6 not D4 engines. £40k of extras on a T38 is definitely not unusual, and £100k on the bigger Fairlines is quite normal. So a boat with zero extras is a bit awkward. The market for it will be quite a bit thinner than for a boat with D6 and normal list of extras. And many of the the extras cannot easily be retrofitted.


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I'm no expert but the chap from Fairline told me most of the options are actually easily retro-fitted.

Technically the boat is third hand (London International Boat Show owned it before me) but with all of 3 hours on the engines when I left it I'd say it was as new! The Fairline guy also said the D6 engines don't give a huge performance boost- maybe a few extra knots top end. Since 95% of the time you'll cruise far slower it's wasn't really worth the extra spend.

Given that the options can be retro-fitted it might suit somebody looking to beat the waiting list on a new boat?
 
If I had the money, it would be very attractive to me. My S28 came from Windemere, so no salt water use, no Radar, no GPS, no VHF.

Priced accordingly, it meant I could fit exactly what I wanted in terms of electronics - it was like speccing a new boat. Adding aircon / heating / generator isn't quite so simple, but not everybody wants these options.

Can't easily change the engines, but being as the D4's can propel it to 33kts, I don't see this as an issue.

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Yup the bigger engines dont give a big performance boost but they are nevertheless much more in demand by buyers. Most boats are sold with the biggest engine option, right across the board. Some extras can be retrofitted as good as original. some can be retrofitted but not as well as factory fitted for technical/cost reasons. Others just cant be retrofitted. A passerelle is easy retrofit, but a generator isn't. Airco can b fitted, but often not as well as if factory fitted due to lack of access to run piping etc

Salesmen will of course say things can be retrofitted. James B at EBY, fantastic salesman and all-round guy that he is, doesn't not fully appreciate the limitations in retrofitting, and overpromises. He persuaded a friend of mine to buy a new Sq58 ordered with no airco, as it is a £30k option and he said EBY could retrofit it for less. It is probably the only Sq58 ever made without airco. A Sq58 costs 6 times as much as a Bentley and you wouldn't order a Bentley without airco would you? Well, EBY did retrofit, but it was MUCH worse than the factory fit and a decision my friend much regrets).

But hey, no worries, you are a seller and EBY are probably the best sales team around and will convince would-be buyers that stuff can be retrofitted, so all good as far as you're concerned. You really couldn't have your boat in better hands so far as selling it is concerned :-)
 
I think you're overplaying the lack of aircon and other options - it doesn't have to be a med boat. On a squaddie 58, maybe different story, but T38 is a much smaller boat, and to get to a sensible UK spec the buyer could get away with just a decent electronics package, and maybe some heating if oop North.

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Get real Dave.............heating Darn Sarf is also a must have!!!

However I agree, a bit of a few retrofittable electronic toys, and a decent tender and davits, jobs a gooden!

Jas.

Air con may be nice for this coming weekend if JJ is to be believed?!?!?!
 
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