Ultrasonic anti-fouling

Well done Jaycar!

I received the following e-mail from Jaycar today:

Hey Eugene,

We’ve had a chat to our CEO, and they said we are now to absorb the difference in freight, please disregard the previous email regarding your order.

Hope you enjoy your Christmas!

Regards – Toren@Jaycar

Not sure if this was as a result of my e-mail outlining outlining the situation and proposing a win-win, or someone elses' similar efforts before me - but a nice Christmas present anyway! Hope it applies to everyone else's orders too, though! Good on Jaycar!
 
Or maybe not...?

After my previous post, I received another e-mail from Jaycar.

Hi Eugene,

Please be advised that the actual freight charge for you order JUK133566 will be 76.59 AUD (=48.5538 GBP). You can check from http://auspost.com.au/apps/international-parcel.html, Please kindly let us know you want to cancel this order or get it processed? If you still want this item, Please supply your credit card detail to charge extra.

Kind regards,

Helen

Jaycar Electronics Techstore

Given yesterday's e-mail saying that their CEO agreed that they will absorb the extra cost, I am confused. Or rather, I think they are...
 
You lucky man, if you get the kits for the original freight cost, I paid the extra then got hit for VAT on the lot! The kits arrived this morning, and look very good. They have a full reprint of the magazine article in them, and the coil is ready made, you do not have to wind it yourself.

It will be after Christmas before I start work on them, and I will post a separate thread on the build. (unless anyone else starts a building the kit thread first.)

P.S. I wonder if Jaycar are going to give refunds to all of us who paid the extra freight? (A pig just flew past my window!)

On which subject, some years ago I worked in Phoenix Arizona, One day I was having an argument in my office on the 24th floor, and someone expressed a view that one of our offices would get a job done well. I replied bitterly that pigs might fly, at which point the police helicopter flew slowly past the window.

P.P.S. Others have commented that freight cost would be less if the epoxy was omitted, but in fact the one item that could sensibly be left out is the coil of cable to connect it up, this is good flexible stuff, but is not tinned, and weighs 0.58KG, so omitting it woulg bring each kit below 1.5KG.
 
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Norman_E said:
P.P.S. Others have commented that freight cost would be less if the epoxy was omitted, but in fact the one item that could sensibly be left out is the coil of cable to connect it up, this is good flexible stuff, but is not tinned, and weighs 0.58KG, so omitting it woulg bring each kit below 1.5KG.
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Good point, but it doesn't get over the fact that on the UK adverts showing the Jaycar "UK" web site, P&P to the UK is stated as follows:

Order Value ........ Cost
£10 - £49.99 ........ £5
£50 - £99.99 ........ £10
£100 - £199.99 .... £20 <---- 2 kits
...
Max weight 12lb (5kg) <---- not 4kg
Heavier parcels POA

Perhaps the ASA would be interested?
 
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p&p talk

to be honest i don't care about the extra p&p + customs as still the whole project is very much cheaper then you can buy anywhere here in the uk.

if you see what you get its a complete kit so for me jaycar well done! :)
 
nigelmercier said:
Good point, but it doesn't get over the fact that on the UK adverts showing the Jaycar "UK" web site, P&P to the UK is stated as follows:

Order Value ........ Cost
£10 - £49.99 ........ £5
£50 - £99.99 ........ £10
£100 - £199.99 .... £20 <---- 2 kits
...
Max weight 12lb (5kg) <---- not 4kg
Heavier parcels POA

Perhaps the ASA would be interested?
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Hi Nigel,
I am preparing to face the same freight charges problems for delivery to Germany. Can you help me to find the above info you mention on the Jaycar UK website? I looked at all places it could be hidden, but did not find anything.
Thanks in advence,
Plamen
 
I have just recieved two kits ordered on the 4th Jan they did not ask me for extra postage all I have paid is:

£69.75 * 2 (two kits) = £139.5

£20.00 freight & handling

£5.00 insurance

Sub total £164.50

VAT £27.90

Clearance Fee £8.00

Sub total £35.90 Payable to Parcelforce UK

Grand Total £200.40

Lucky I guess!
 
petehb said:
I have just recieved two kits ordered on the 4th Jan they did not ask me for extra postage all I have paid is:

£69.75 * 2 (two kits) = £139.5

£20.00 freight & handling

£5.00 insurance

Sub total £164.50

VAT £27.90

Clearance Fee £8.00

Sub total £35.90 Payable to Parcelforce UK

Grand Total £200.40

Lucky I guess!
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Thanks, Petehb
for just in case, as I have the same matter (2 kits), if I enter into trouble with jaycar, may I ask you to give me your order numer and your permission to refer to it?
Best regards
Plamen
 
hullmate said:
Hi all,

Just to let you know there is another option out there for getting rid of fouling build called Brizo which allows you to singlehandedly clean below the water line of your boat whilst its still in the water. Does this interest you?! Check it out here - www.hullmate.com
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Are you trying to tell me that this Brizo device will rid my hull of 4" of weed growth and barnacles whilst still in the water in a little over 15 minutes? :confused:

Just had a look at the price of this very, very special scrubbing brush you are selling . . . £235 !!
 
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2 Jaycar ultrasonic kits available

Hi All
just to let you know, I have 2 Jaycar ultrasonic kits for sale, sitting now on my shelf in Germany. I ordered 6, 2 of them I don't need anymore. I payd just the standard shipping 20 GBP for 2, plus 19% German VAT & some clearance service (similar to UK costs). I just want to cover my costs, If somebody wants them drop me a PM.
I will than breakdown the exact costs (for me they are in EUR)
but again I don't want profit out of it, just fair cost coverage.
Best regards
Plamen
 
hullmate said:
Hi all,

Just to let you know there is another option out there for getting rid of fouling build called Brizo which allows you to singlehandedly clean below the water line of your boat whilst its still in the water. Does this interest you?! Check it out here - www.hullmate.com
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Hang on, do they really sell a foam pad on a stick for £195 plus VAT, If so I want to get into that business. It might be a sophisticated foam pad on a plastic head with bouyancy to keep it in contact with the hull, but £195?
 
Plamen said:
Hi All
just to let you know, I have 2 Jaycar ultrasonic kits for sale, sitting now on my shelf in Germany. I ordered 6, 2 of them I don't need anymore. I payd just the standard shipping 20 GBP for 2, plus 19% German VAT & some clearance service (similar to UK costs). I just want to cover my costs, If somebody wants them drop me a PM.
I will than breakdown the exact costs (for me they are in EUR)
but again I don't want profit out of it, just fair cost coverage.
Best regards
Plamen
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so here are my costs :
2 kits + 20 GBP freight (£159,50)=188,40 €
Mastercard charge=1,88 €
2 kits 19% VAT+clearance=44,00 €
Total 2 kits=234,28 €, 1 kit=117,14 €
registered parcel to UK=16,00 € (per kit)
total 1 kit delivered UK=133,14 € (around £115)
total 2 kits delivered UK=266,28 € (around £229)
there will be no VAT or anything else ontop in the UK of cource.
I also could unpack the original box into 2 max letters, so shipment may come significant down...
Let me know
Regards
Plamen
 
hullmate said:
. . . is the price point your only concern?!
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I bought a red "Astro Turf" door mat from Tesco for a couple of quid. When cut into smaller managable sizes, it will out perform and last longer than the Brizo for less than a fiver including the handle.

What you are selling here looks very much like something you can buy from the teleshopping companies at 3am in the morning which is only ever used once and then discarded due to it being totally impractical.

Anyway, you are not allowed to directly advertise on these forums, not even a £235 snake-oil applicator. :D
 
that Brizo device looks quite effective on 'algae and slimes' as their video claims.

What I would really like to see is a pic, not a CGI graphic, of a Brizo after being used on a yacht which has been in the water (as ours has) for over two years with only bootline scrubbing. I guess the foam will be shredded by barnacles and mussels.

I am happy to try it out (for free !) and send some photos back to Hullmate.

It just looks like a light maintenance tool, not a serious scrubber. In that first role, it could be a useful device.


BTW, if you call in to any of the major Tool Hire Companies, and ask nicely, they will let you have those enormous circular scrubbing discs from floor cleaning machines at a very good price. They have to send the machines out with new pads, and the old ones just get dumped ! They make ideal items for cutting down for a disc cleaner such as the Metabo. :)
 
Plamen said:
Hi All just to let you know, I have 2 Jaycar ultrasonic kits for sale, sitting now on my shelf in Germany. I ordered 6, 2 of them I don't need anymore. I payd just the standard shipping 20 GBP for 2, plus 19% German VAT & some clearance service (similar to UK costs). I just want to cover my costs, If somebody wants them drop me a PM. I will than breakdown the exact costs (for me they are in EUR) but again I don't want profit out of it, just fair cost coverage. Best regards Plamen
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Why did you buy six in the first place? - how big is your boat
 
Disappointed!

Saw this very popular thread so I decided to have a read. Initially I was against the idea of ultrasonic antifouling but, after doing some swift calcs on energy consumption, especially compared with the cost (money and environmental) of traditional erodable paint, I was more enthusiastic. No more crawling under the boat every March, covering myself with paint, banging my head on rusty anodes to say nothing of the scraping and wire brushing. HOWEVER - DOES IT WORK?
Two pages through the thread changes into a dispute with the suppliers charging extra for delivery. I can imagine early purchasers being bitterly disappointed not to get their gear. The supplier has clearly cocked up the delivery charge and should complete their existing orders on the terms agreed but apply realistic charges to future orders - of which there will be many IF THE SYSTEM WORKS.
Just one query that I have not seen an answer to - is just one transducer required for a 30 footer? Other than that, the price seems very reasonable even with revised delivery charges compared with £100+ for paint. Can that kit really weigh over 4 kg?
Me, I'm waiting to see the results after 12months but I run the risk that the price will rocket if and when the system is proved to be effective.
 
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