UK Airspace closed... anyone watching the news?

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The headline statement that 'UK Airspace is closed' is incorrect. In line with international civil aviation policy, no IFR (instrument) flights other than agreed emergencies are currently permitted in UK CONTROLLED airspace. Some flights outside controlled airspace are still taking place. In this context, controlled airspace comprises specific categories of airspace and should not be taken to mean airspace under the jurisdiction of UK. Controlled airspace is largely, by definition, IFR. There is MUCH more to this and I haven't got time or space for a crash course in aviation terminology! This restriction will remain extant until at least 0700hrs tomorrow morning. In short, and although the impact is major, don't believe everything you read in the press!
 
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The headline statement that 'UK Airspace is closed' is incorrect. In line with international civil aviation policy, no IFR (instrument) flights other than agreed emergencies are currently permitted in UK CONTROLLED airspace. Some flights outside controlled airspace are still taking place. In this context, controlled airspace comprises specific categories of airspace and should not be taken to mean airspace under the jurisdiction of UK. Controlled airspace is largely, by definition, IFR. There is MUCH more to this and I haven't got time or space for a crash course in aviation terminology! This restriction will remain extant until at least 0700hrs tomorrow morning. In short, and although the impact is major, don't believe everything you read in the press!

a Dakota went over an hr ago :D
 

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This weekend elder son having his Stag Do (arranged by younger son who is Best Man) in Dundee/St Andrews area - don't ask - but it does, in part, entail paint balling, quad biking and golf at St Andrews, doubtless enhanced by the occasional tincture! 18 chaps travelling up today, ostensibly by air, and returning on Sunday.

All travelling from the SE/S/SW of England (Bristol, Southampton and Gatport Airwick).

Heard about an hour ago that 16 of the 18 are converging on Dundee by train, National Express and road, with the last one due to arrive by 2200 this evening. The last two arrive in the morning after driving up overnight.

I am heartened to see that there is none of the hand wringing "what's going to happen to me" amongst them. A flurry of phone calls and they reorganised themselves within an hour of hearing about the flight cancellations.

Who said there was anything wrong with the younger generation !!!

I'm proud of them.

Tom
 
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According to 'the man on the telly' the dust is at around 15000 feet, which the commercial jets would have to pass through to attain working altitude. So anything below that is apparently Ok.

Saw it on the telly, so it must be right! :)
 

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We flew up to Oban yesterday ( Thursday ) in the seaplane from Glasgow without any problem - super day and unlimited visibility, just some snow on Ben Lomond and the Cobbler. Sunset in Oban last night was less red than in Largs for Tues/Weds night, and even tonight Friday in Largs - just a pleasant orange. Flying back today was equally as good, just superb. Let the airlines decide if they want to grind their engines a bit ( Ryanair seem to have come to that judgement on commercial and not safety grounds ) or just go on flying. What do the Mets / Nats / Academics have to loose by hiding behind H&S and rubbishing the name of scientists, good on them - at least I am an engineer and a pragmatist so hopefully do not get dragged down by these weird scientists. Seem to be the same crowd that keep going on about global warming and discrediting themselves by the day.
 

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We flew up to Oban yesterday ( Thursday ) in the seaplane from Glasgow without any problem - super day and unlimited visibility, just some snow on Ben Lomond and the Cobbler. Sunset in Oban last night was less red than in Largs for Tues/Weds night, and even tonight Friday in Largs - just a pleasant orange. Flying back today was equally as good, just superb. Let the airlines decide if they want to grind their engines a bit ( Ryanair seem to have come to that judgement on commercial and not safety grounds ) or just go on flying. What do the Mets / Nats / Academics have to loose by hiding behind H&S and rubbishing the name of scientists, good on them - at least I am an engineer and a pragmatist so hopefully do not get dragged down by these weird scientists. Seem to be the same crowd that keep going on about global warming and discrediting themselves by the day.

Yes - at what maximum height - 3000ft? This ash is a lot higher up, where the big boys fly. 'Swot it says in the papers AND the telly - so it MUST be true! Seriously though, a research plane went up over Essex, and found most of the ash was above 8000 ft.

Scilly Isles flights are operating normally for the same reason, and we have had those little Executive Lear jets zooming in and out of Goodwood all day - all lower level flights. The International air corridors over us are all above 12,000ft, and beautifully empty!

So Squeezy Jet, Ryanair etc COULD fly - but below around 7500ft all the way.... and that would cost more!
 
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I am heartened to see that there is none of the hand wringing "what's going to happen to me" amongst them. A flurry of phone calls and they reorganised themselves within an hour of hearing about the flight cancellations.

Who said there was anything wrong with the younger generation !!!

I'm proud of them.

Tom

Bet the same thing wouldnt have happened if it had been a conference for work. :D Or dry.:eek:
 

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I have a cover on the back of my brothers 4x4 pick up truck (which I am babysitting). I noticed yesterday, a layer of fine white dust had formed on the surface of a puddle of water that had formed on it. When I dragged my finger through it, it had a greasyclay like texture.
The upside to all this is that I don't have aircraft and helicopters flying over constantly (I am on the flight path into Aberdeen airport). I did see a wee Cessna buzzing around quite happily yesterday - he must have been loving it :D
 

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