sailorman
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Is it normal to pay up front prior to using it
Contribution $16
what to do & is it worth the cost
TIA
Contribution $16
what to do & is it worth the cost
TIA
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Bobc
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No, and No.
sailorman
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Getting blue screen with Open cpn on W7 now & then so thought another OS might be better
Glisferox
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Nope, just click on the download link and install it.
You can give them a $16 donation tater if you think it's really worth it. It is however a donation not a charge.
Good luck.
You can give them a $16 donation tater if you think it's really worth it. It is however a donation not a charge.
Good luck.
lustyd
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If you're paying for Linux and you're not a business user then either you're being generous or you've taken a wrong turn. Ubuntu have done various things for Linux but Shuttleworth needs money like fat kids need cake. Download it and have a go if you're feeling nerdy. If you don't feel like experimenting and don't have a specific need then just use Windows as it uses no more power, has no worse security, has no more bugs and is generally easier to use. Various people may argue those facts but I probably have more experience than most of them 
RobbieW
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Reading between the lines on a few threads, I think you already know that your BSODs may be to do with drivers for devices that aren't W7 specific? Maybe its time to upgrade your serial-USB adapters?
If you go the Ubuntu route, consider putting Cinnamon on top as your user environment. Its much easier coming from Windows to get to grips with. Also be aware that OCPN didnt install straight out of the box on Ubuntu 12.04 (the last Long Term Support (LTS) variant of Ubuntu). I had difficulties with library dependencies, see http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f134/ocpn-3-2-0-install-on-ubuntu-12-04-dependencies-100079.html, easy enough to resolve if your a bit nerdy
This may or may not have been resolved with 13.04
lustyd
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Sorry hadn't seen this post until this morning. If you're getting a blue screen then it's either a hardware fault or a driver issue and is nothing to do with Windows. Use Windbg.exe to find out which driver is at fault, there are instructions on the internet. If you find windbg too complex then Linux is most definitely not for you!
Tony Cross
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No, do NOT pay for it. You can download it for free from http://www.ubuntu.com/download.
I agree with lustyd though, if you can't sort out a BSOD in Windows you'll really struggle with Ubuntu/Linux.
I agree with lustyd though, if you can't sort out a BSOD in Windows you'll really struggle with Ubuntu/Linux.
Iliade
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One use: It can be used to read & repair the video files stored on hitachi TV hard drives...
sailorman
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Ok thanks chaps, i am certainly no computer geek.
the blue screed is "memory dump" not the dreaded "Blue screen of Death".
it seems to happen during AIS alarm function on Open CPN
the blue screed is "memory dump" not the dreaded "Blue screen of Death".
it seems to happen during AIS alarm function on Open CPN
wipe_out
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Ubuntu or Mint are great for desktops and transitioning Windows users.. Easy to use and simple to install lots of apps.. Both available free..
Personally I have been using Linux on my main desktop in one for or another for 10 years and run many Linux servers as well.. I far prefer is to Windows.. I do however also have a Windows 7 laptop..
My advice is if you feel like trying something new then load Linux and spend some time with it (there is a learning curve because things are different).. If you don't feel like learning something new then get your Windows working for you..
Personally I have been using Linux on my main desktop in one for or another for 10 years and run many Linux servers as well.. I far prefer is to Windows.. I do however also have a Windows 7 laptop..
My advice is if you feel like trying something new then load Linux and spend some time with it (there is a learning curve because things are different).. If you don't feel like learning something new then get your Windows working for you..
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Even some W7 drivers for cheap serial-USB devices cause BSOD.
prv
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I wouldn't have the first clue about "sorting out" a BSOD on Windows (proven, in fact - in a spirit of curiosity I recently installed Windows 7 on my second machine at work, it started regularly bluescreening, I've turned it off and ignored it
). But I've used Linux as my desktop exclusively for seven years at work, and for most of four years of uni before that (uni-owned machines were Solaris though). Machines I remotely log into have been AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Linux, z/OS, and very occasionally i5OS.For personal stuff I use a Mac, though, which is better than any of them
Pete
sailorman
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I wouldn't have the first clue about "sorting out" a BSOD on Windows (proven, in fact - in a spirit of curiosity I recently installed Windows 7 on my second machine at work, it started regularly bluescreening, I've turned it off and ignored it
For personal stuff I use a Mac, though, which is better than any of them
Pete
but you then have to actually buy software
temptress
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Ubuntu is free, it is distributed as an open source project. You can donate if you want to help Canonical build more platforms or even get some support form them but you do not have to. I use Ubuntu all the time but I have WIN 7 on the boat laptop because that is the platform where I find the most boaty software. IMO Ubuntu (Linux) is a far better platform than Windows.
lustyd
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But then you are quite geeky and a professional user of such thingsI wouldn't have the first clue about "sorting out" a BSOD on Windows (proven, in fact - in a spirit of curiosity I recently installed Windows 7 on my second machine at work, it started regularly bluescreening, I've turned it off and ignored it
For personal stuff I use a Mac, though, which is better than any of them
Pete
To sort a BSOD you just point windbg at the memory dump created either in c:\windows or c:\windows\minidumps and it will show you the faulting library which is almost always a driver and obvious which one. If its not consistently one driver then it's usually faulty memory which can be checked with memtest86. Linux has similar with core dumps but by the nature of Linux these are more obvious to find after a fault, or certainly used to be when they dumped next to the faulting code. I've not seen one since RedHat 6 though, and not the current RedHat 6 either <smugnerdface>
prv
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I recently threw away some old CDs, I think there was a Red Hat 5.1 among them.
Had to get yer Linux by post in those days, downloading it over a home Internet connection would have been an absurd idea.
Pete
lustyd
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5.1 was distributed on floppy disks and RPMs added during install from online sources, there was as far as i know no official cd. it's still available from some sources but impossible to run because it checked the CPU before install and x686 class processors make it say no to installation
I recently threw away some old CDs, I think there was a Red Hat 5.1 among them.
Had to get yer Linux by post in those days, downloading it over a home Internet connection would have been an absurd idea.
Pete
floppies were fine over the web even in those days of 28.8Kbps although it took a minute or two. The biggest problem was getting back on the net if you didn't have a "real" modem after installation prv
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These weren't official, they were CD-Rs put together by an outfit called CheapBytes. Certainly writing a floppy or three using files off the disc was part of the install procedure, but I can't remember the details.
Pete
Marmalade
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Have you tried Chrome?
