two stroke hypocrit

Don't worry about it as its hardly saving the planet anyway buying new outboards
that have used resources and energy to manufacture and then all the heavy fueloil and diesel
etc to transport halfway around the world to your door ....so its not always clear-cut is it.
 
Agree with him!

Say that when you've had another couple of PBO articles published you'll have the money to get another To****su 4 stroke as back up.

In the mean time regrettably the Evinrude 2T twin is all you have... unless he'd prefer you to get the Seagull out of the back of the garage.

Youd run the 'rude on biodegradable oil wouldn't you ?


EDIT new forum doesn't like To****su outboards!
 
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Lakesailor said:
Tohatsu

You must have typed Toshitsu by mistake. (you're wrong BTW):D
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Maybe you're right

Came across a forum once that would not allow the word "specialist". Took me a while to figure that one out. Daft 'cos it allowed Scunthorpe ( as does this one!)
 
VicS said:
Agree with him!

Say that when you've had another couple of PBO articles published you'll have the money to get another To****su 4 stroke as back up.

In the mean time regrettably the Evinrude 2T twin is all you have... unless he'd prefer you to get the Seagull out of the back of the garage.

Youd run the 'rude on biodegradable oil wouldn't you ?


EDIT new forum doesn't like To****su outboards!
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12 pages of PBO to pay for a Tohatsu

I will have to test the Rude on Katie L at some stage
 
Daub him with mud and tell him to mind his own business, then write an article exaggerating the outcome of the situation. Call it Creek Crawler Wars, commission a TV series called "Creek Crawlers" and then buy a hovercraft. This may sound OTT but so far we have Gold Diggers, Axe Men, Swamp People, Bamazon'; the unintelligible and delusional people with huge fragile egos in strange places genre hasn't yet been done to death. You will have to sex it up a bit to get the commission — probably throw the two stroke at him while he stands on a wobbly board at low tide, capture the swearing — they like that or just add lots of bleeps into the video. Also throw something onto the ground in anger as you walk away with your pride in pieces, thats a good one, features regularly, large sweeping vistas and broken things fixed stupidly and break again is popular too. The only down side is that you will need to generate a sense of impending doom against a deadline that is constantly missed — so stay away from lazy drifting unless you should be doing something urgently of great importance instead. Good luck, just include me in the credits "from an original idea by BlowingOldBoots".
 
I believe it is the case that decent two-stroke oil has a lower ash content than diesel fuel, which would seem to suggest that if the correct amount is added to gasoline (which has an extremely low ash content) it will all burn. In which case the atmospheric pollution levels are negligible and nothing falls in the water. Quite a different case for a Seagull running on a 25:1 mixture with engine oil, of course.
 
vyv_cox said:
I believe it is the case that decent two-stroke oil has a lower ash content than diesel fuel, which would seem to suggest that if the correct amount is added to gasoline (which has an extremely low ash content) it will all burn. In which case the atmospheric pollution levels are negligible and nothing falls in the water. Quite a different case for a Seagull running on a 25:1 mixture with engine oil, of course.
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Is that true?

does that mean that you can get a complete burn in a naturally aspirated two stroke?

I thought on a non-injection two stroke that was impossible

any urls I could look up because as I get older four strokes are going to get heavier

Dylan
 
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Save all the aggro just box it up and post it to me.I will dispose of it in an ecologically reponsible way, perhaps :-)
 
2 Stroke / a safety issue as you get the same power for half the weight - thus have additional reserve weight capacity on your tender, and better weight distribution on the boat.


I have a 6hp Honda 4 stroke, and would be delighted to swap it for a 9.8 hp tohatsu 2st
 
Talbot said:
2 Stroke / a safety issue as you get the same power for half the weight - thus have additional reserve weight capacity on your tender, and better weight distribution on the boat.


I have a 6hp Honda 4 stroke, and would be delighted to swap it for a 9.8 hp tohatsu 2st
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what about swapping it for my Evinrude

long shaft, 2 cylinder, 6hp, less than 2 hours on it - despite being 40 years old

D
 
The hypocrites are the people who fly around the world attending conferences discussing have to reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere.

The developing world just want the developed world to pay them (developing world) for "destroying the plant" and the developed world want to sell technology to the developing world to slow the CO2.

IMHO it all about money and will do nothing to save the plant if it needs saving.

It the Human race that needs saving from inept politicians.

I'm off sailing for 3 weeks tomorrow to do my bit. No mains electricity no big engine, just the sound of the wind and sea.
 
Rogershaw said:
The hypocrites are the people who fly around the world attending conferences discussing have to reduce the CO2 in the atmosphere.

The developing world just want the developed world to pay them (developing world) for "destroying the plant" and the developed world want to sell technology to the developing world to slow the CO2.

IMHO it all about money and will do nothing to save the plant if it needs saving.

It the Human race that needs saving from inept politicians.

I'm off sailing for 3 weeks tomorrow to do my bit. No mains electricity no big engine, just the sound of the wind and sea.
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we were in the boatyard the other day talking about climate change

four of us...

all in our fifties and sixties

then we got onto population growth and I asked how many grand kids the blokes had.....





prolific buggers these Yorkshiremen
 
dylanwinter said:
Is that true?

does that mean that you can get a complete burn in a naturally aspirated two stroke?

I thought on a non-injection two stroke that was impossible

any urls I could look up because as I get older four strokes are going to get heavier

Dylan
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There is a great deal on the subject on the internet, but most of it is in 4-WD forums and 75% of that by the same person. He may be correct but overkill never helps to plead a cause.

I have found this one http://www.postzambia.com/post-read_article.php?articleId=9533 which is a little more sensible.
 
vyv_cox said:
I believe it is the case that decent two-stroke oil has a lower ash content than diesel fuel, which would seem to suggest that if the correct amount is added to gasoline (which has an extremely low ash content) it will all burn. In which case the atmospheric pollution levels are negligible and nothing falls in the water. Quite a different case for a Seagull running on a 25:1 mixture with engine oil, of course.
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Only late Seagulls ran on 25 to 1 -mine happily runs on 10 to 1 as designed but certainly never engine oil other than single grade back in the 1960s.Been in the family for 45 years and still going strong- I dont care if people like it or not!
 
Searush said:
Most can be converted to 10:1 if you wish.
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until 1978 (??) 10:1 was the standard fuel mix. Then 25:1 and some very late ones, of which none may survive, 50:1

post 1967 they can be converted to 25:1 but not advised for early models.

Conversion involves a new needle for Villers carbs or new jets for Amal two jet carbs.


Its all on the SOS website.
 
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