Twenty Small Sailboats, your version

banger said:
And the Oysterman 22,strong, very seaworthy, four berth, seperate toilet,good galley, over six foot headroom, powerful gaff rig, deep cockpit, easy single hander ,well that's my opinion mine is for sale!!
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Oysterman 22 feels a much bigger boat than her length would suggest. Feels more like a 30 footer. Probably weighs much more than the average 30 footer!
 
At the upper length limit I would include the Centurion 32. However, finding a good one that is below the £30K limit might require some diligent shopping around. Although not the most roomy, by today's standards, she can take practically whatever is thrown at her.
 
Shane Acton did alright with his 18+' Mark 1 Caprice - he even had an outboard and a Woolworths inflatable for part of the cirumnavigation!
 
Porthandbuoy said:
I think the OP needs to be advised that only 70% to 80% tops, of his budget, should be spent buying his boat. He'll need the balance, and probably then some, to fit it out the way he wants.
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Or a good few of his own man hours.

I broke that rule got a bigger more seaworthy boat within this budget but with the need of a few DIY upgrades - you can do it but accept you need to spend the next 5 years gradually upgrading.

Its important that the right bits are in good nick. You can cross oceans with a basic boat, no heating, hand pumped water, paper charts, traditional instruments and a £100 GPS if you want to but good sails and robust standing rigging are important.

I'd rather have the slightly bigger seaworthy yacht for the money.

Didn't a rebuilt within this budget Sigma 33C win that race whose name i forget accross the atlantic recently?

That proves its credentials for me anyway

I don't think black and white rules work well in this debate - common sense is important though
 
OSTAR: http://www.pbo.co.uk/news/406265/sigma-33-wins-ostar-on-handicap


EuanMcKenzie said:
Or a good few of his own man hours.

I broke that rule got a bigger more seaworthy boat within this budget but with the need of a few DIY upgrades - you can do it but accept you need to spend the next 5 years gradually upgrading.

Its important that the right bits are in good nick. You can cross oceans with a basic boat, no heating, hand pumped water, paper charts, traditional instruments and a £100 GPS if you want to but good sails and robust standing rigging are important.

I'd rather have the slightly bigger seaworthy yacht for the money.

Didn't a rebuilt within this budget Sigma 33C win that race whose name i forget accross the atlantic recently?

That proves its credentials for me anyway

I don't think black and white rules work well in this debate - common sense is important though
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One that has not been mentioned yet ( surprisingly in my view ) is the Hurley 22. admittedly at the small end of your criteria but very capable and a good one, fully fitted out for ocean passages, will still leave you a lot in your cruising fund.

Chris
 
I notice in the news a 188ft steel barquentine has just sunk off Brazil. So perhaps size doesn't really matter.
 
i'll maybe be looking into a 2012 jester challenge :)

the ballad looks spot on, size and price wise. not as much ocean going history as some though, afaik.
 
A lot of Scandinavians has crossed the Atlantic - and Pacific in Ballad's, so it is proven. I like Ballads very much.
But since so many Vega's were build they will probably always outnumber the Ballad?

kesh said:
i'll maybe be looking into a 2012 jester challenge :)

the ballad looks spot on, size and price wise. not as much ocean going history as some though, afaik.
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Blueboatman said:
Gawd, only 20 ?

There must be 50 UK available boats in that price bracket that would do the job, don't panic !
For a start I would think anything built by a reputable builder, like Halmatic ( moulders), Westerly, Marine projects and Rival ( Southern shipbuilding?). Then there are all the continentals. And don't forget that Bavarias are in fact totally amazing.

One model mentioned that I would reject is the Catalina (Jaguar) 27. Having had tea on one that had been sailed to windward from the States down to Puerto Rico, I was horrified at the very real distortion to deck, chainplates, main bulkheads etc, just from mast loadings. Mebbe the British ones used heavier laminate though?
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I had a Jaguar 27, which was built under licence in the UK by Jaguar Yachts on Canvey Island with all UK sourced equipment and I understand was built much heavier than the US Catalina's. I can assure you I sailed it all over the Thames Estuary in all sorts of weather without any worries at all - in fact I always reckoned the boat would stand up to much more than the crew could. I never had any qualms about it's integrity and ability to stand up to heavy weather. I would recommend a J27(UK built!).
 
We got our 1977 Moody 33 for less than 30K.

We have lived aboard for nearly 12 years and crossed the Atlantic in our boat 4 times.

Does that help??
 
capnsensible said:
We got our 1977 Moody 33 for less than 30K.

We have lived aboard for nearly 12 years and crossed the Atlantic in our boat 4 times.

Does that help??
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It all helps. I shall print out this thread when it's done with and use it during boat perusal.
 
capnsensible said:
We got our 1977 Moody 33 for less than 30K.

We have lived aboard for nearly 12 years and crossed the Atlantic in our boat 4 times.

Does that help??
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Yes, my current boat is a 1979 Moody 33 and it cost well under 20k and as capnsensible says I would be happy to cross the atlantic in it - I've just renewed the skinfitting for the toilet outlet and the grp at that point was 1" thick - very reassuring.
 
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M33 said:
I had a Jaguar 27, which was built under licence in the UK by Jaguar Yachts on Canvey Island with all UK sourced equipment and I understand was built much heavier than the US Catalina's. I can assure you I sailed it all over the Thames Estuary in all sorts of weather without any worries at all - in fact I always reckoned the boat would stand up to much more than the crew could. I never had any qualms about it's integrity and ability to stand up to heavy weather. I would recommend a J27(UK built!).
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This could be paranoia but the hatch/companionway seems rather large to me. I guess it must be well enough built not to be a weak point... provided it's closed when a wave breaks into the cockpit :D
 
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