Tweakers but no toe rail

[chris-s]

I think the use of a tweaker would help calm a rolly spinnaker but on a little Pegasus 700 there is no metal toe rail to use or mid cleat and the Genoa track is inboard.

The only thing I can come up with is to fit a eye bolt thru the top edge of the deck with a backing plate underneath, tho with a moulded cabin interior access might require a saw.

So before I start drilling and cutting, any other suggestions?

Chris

 

[neil_s]

Do you mean the barber hauler on the guy? I use the loop at the bottom of a stantion to pass mine through an then back to a clam cleat on the cockpit coaming.

 

[William_H]

I would use a saddle (U shaped 2holes) this gives 2 points of attachment. I would get a 6mm tap and just drill and tap into deck. Hopefully not a lot of load on the fitting and not a total disaster if it pulls out.
If it is a deck area with balsa core then you need to cut out a larger area and fill with epoxy. Before you fill it you may be able to fit a ss plate through the hole with 2 holes tapped for the screws. Put the screws in place temporary holding the plate in position, with lots of wax, vaseline or grease to discourage the epoxy from sticking to the screws. When epoxy is hard you should have a small backing plate epoxyied in with holes tapped justy right for a saddle or eyebolt. (all from the top) ol'will

 

[Neeves]

If I understand you correctly

I'd resist drilling anything anywhere - if you have options.

You must have stanchions they are presumably bolted to the deck. Remove one bolt and replace with an eye bolt. If the current stanchion bolts tap into the deck/hull then replace with an eye bolt of the same thread. If you are worried about overloading one bolt - instal 2 eye bolts, they are not expensive. If necessary you can add a short strop to the eye bolt with a small block on the end (or be really fashionable and use a long soft shackle and low friction ring) to allow the tweaker to clear the top of the guard rail/wire.

Jonathan

 

[john_morris_uk]

The stanchions on a Pegasus 700 (if they’re anything like it’s predecessor, the Pandora 700) they don’t lend themselves to ‘remove a bolt and replace with an eye/bolt.
Here’s our daughters Pandora sitting on its mooring:


Not sure if you can make it out, but there’s a moulded toe rail.
Either bolt through this (fill the void with epoxy first) or how about one of those blocks that bolt onto a stanchion and which are usually used for roller reefing lines?

 

[chris-s]

Thanks for the replies. I hadn’t considered the stanchions to be strong enough, they aren’t bolted to anything merely slotted into a fitting moulded into the deck so there isn’t a bolt I could swap out.

But yes, I guess the load wouldn’t be excessive, it would be at the very bottom so leverage shouldn’t be too much and since I do have some of those ‘roller reefing guides’ spare I might try that to begin with.

Thanks.

 

[Neeves]

Thanks for the replies. I hadn’t considered the stanchions to be strong enough, they aren’t bolted to anything merely slotted into a fitting moulded into the deck so there isn’t a bolt I could swap out.

But yes, I guess the load wouldn’t be excessive, it would be at the very bottom so leverage shouldn’t be too much and since I do have some of those ‘roller reefing guides’ spare I might try that to begin with.

Thanks.

Who on earth has spare 'roller reefing guides' (are they the same things as the fancy and expensive devices to keep furling lines tidy?) - surely a jubilee clip and shackle would do the trick.

I must confess I never sailed on a Pandora. I understand the moulded toerail - and like the idea of drilling through packing with filled epoxy, set off - and drill again. You could even cover the area with a thin and appropriately bent sheet of stainless.

But we went through something similar John with your daughter's yacht soo after she bought her's - there is a host of knowledge out there (they are used for class racing in HK) so there must be an answer from people who own, or have owned, or raced, these yachts - any contact for Chris? I really don't believe they sailed them without tweakers (but quite possible) ........

Jonathan

 

[Stemar]

Could you add another block to the genoa sheet track?

 

[chris-s]

Could you add another block to the genoa sheet track?

It’s inboard so I figure that would restrict the amount I can pull the tweaker in by.

 

[chris-s]

Who on earth has spare 'roller reefing guides' (are they the same things as the fancy and expensive devices to keep furling lines tidy?) - surely a jubilee clip and shackle would do the trick.

I must confess I never sailed on a Pandora. I understand the moulded toerail - and like the idea of drilling through packing with filled epoxy, set off - and drill again. You could even cover the area with a thin and appropriately bent sheet of stainless.

But we went through something similar John with your daughter's yacht soo after she bought her's - there is a host of knowledge out there (they are used for class racing in HK) so there must be an answer from people who own, or have owned, or raced, these yachts - any contact for Chris? I really don't believe they sailed them without tweakers (but quite possible) ........

Jonathan

Spare furler guide? It was cheaper to buy a ‘set’ than individuals at the time.

 

[Fantasie 19]

It’s inboard so I figure that would restrict the amount I can pull the tweaker in by.

Anything you could do with those chain plates?? Any space/option to get a shackle in?