TV in the Med - on your TV using the internet.

Hurricane

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Following a recent other thread, I thought that I would write up a report/discussion of my boat TV upgrades this year.
Each year, I spend several months out on the boat so it is nice to occasionally sit down and watch UK TV when I am out in Spain.
And I thought that it may be interesting to people on this forum.
Several of my friends in Sant Carles switched to this type of system after seeing how mine works.

Satellite vs Internet
In the past, the best method of watching TV on a boat was to install a satellite TV dome and point the dish at Astra 2.
Astra 2 is a cluster of satellites placed above the equator at 28.2 degrees East.
There are now three satellites (Astra 2E, Astra 2F and Astra 2G).
These satellites replaced the older ones (Astra 2A, Astra 2D and a Eutelsat)
During the upgrade they used a temporary satellite called Astra 1E which has now moved to its design slot at 19 degrees East.
In the past, we were able to pick up transmissions around Europe that were destined for the UK.
This is great for anyone wanting to watch satellite TV in the UK but unfortunately for us viewers in the Med, the new satellites have been designed using much crisper beams.
Generally speaking, this means that we can no longer receive UK TV outside the UK.
There is one exception - currently, BBC have a backup system for their terrestrial network which uses a satellite placed above the mid Atlantic.
The satellite is called Intelsat 907 - the channels are encrypted - it is easy to obtain hardware and software keys to decode these channels but I have not found the signals strong enough for boat systems in all the tests that I have carried out.
So, that leaves us with the Internet.

Until recently, watching TV over the internet has been difficult due to slow or limited data connections.
Video is notoriously hungry on data (hungry on both speed and the amount of data that it consumes).
Marina WiFi connections are cheap and often free but, in most cases, are too slow for TV.
Unlimited data 3G and 4G internet connections are now available and are beginning to become more affordable.

The following is a report/list/discussion of the solution that I implemented earlier this year.

Internet Connection
We are based in Sant Carles Marina - mid way between Barcelona and Valencia.
The town of Sant Carles is nearby but fibre optic internet still hasn't reached it.
However, two mobile phone operators (Vodafone and Orange) are offering fast 4G broadband and unlimited data plans became available to us in Spain earlier this year.
So I took the opportunity to upgrade my boat's internet connection from marina WiFi to 3G/4G.
It was a simple matter of changing my old WiFi router for one of these at about £125.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4G-3G-150...383540?hash=item3aa65f8ef4:g:dfYAAOSwBLlVGo2m
At this stage, I would like to say that I have always used domestic equipment in my boat's systems.
Although well built, IMO bespoke marine equipment always "lags" behind technology and is often much more expensive.
A number of friends use the MiFi concept - this is a small portable device that provides a local WiFi access point by connecting to 3G/4G mobile data.
The device that I selected above is very similar but be careful.
A fairly new technology (MIMO) is starting to be adopted by the mobile data service providers.
MIMO is a multi antenna concept which greatly enhances the throughput of data.
Some MiFi devices incorporate MIMO - others don't.
If you are planning on upgrading to a router, I suggest that you consider one that handles these new concepts.
Alternatively, MiFi devices are more portable and may be more appropriate.
I chose to install the D-Link fixed router.
However, these concepts (MiFi or 3G/4G Router) are similar and very capable of receiving TV across the internet.

Connection to TV and the Raspberry Pi
Most people will have used a PC, tablet or phone to watch TV but most of us prefer to watch TV on (well) a TV!
There are lots of devices out there that will do the job but I chose to use a number of Raspberry Pis which connect directly to my TVs.
One Raspberry Pi per TV.
This little device has the advantage that there is a host of "open source" free software that is available making it (more or less) infinitely configurable.
It is also very cheap - just £30 or £50 if you want a complete kit including a nice little case to put it in.
In January 2016, they launched a new version of the Pi (The Raspberry Pi 3 Model B).
Here's a link to a complete bundle kit of parts for a Raspberry Pi 3 Model B.
https://thepihut.com/collections/raspberry-pi-kits-and-bundles/products/raspberry-pi-3-starter-kit
Importantly, this powerful little board incorporates 4 USB ports, an HDMI video output and a LAN/WiFi data connection.
This means that you won't have to route wires throughout your boat - just provide the Pi with a power supply and connect it to your TV.
Connection to the internet can be either by wire (ethernet) or by WiFi connected to a router or MiFi (as above).
A microSD card slot is also included so that a full operating system can be installed.
Although it is possible to use your existing TV remote to control the Raspberry Pi (by sending control signals up and down the HDMI port), I find it easier to connect a wireless keyboard to one of the Pi's USB ports.
I use these cheap keyboards from Ebay for about £8 - makes it easier to search listings etc if you have a full QWERTY keyboard.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-4G-Mini...075062?hash=item3d150b6bb6:g:YpoAAOSwoudW8AA4

Software
The bundle kit for the Raspberry Pi comes with microSD card already loaded with a number of different operating systems.
I choose to overwrite this card with software that I download separately.
The software that I use is Openelec - a Linux build that contains media centre software called Kodi.
Until recently, Kodi was called XBMC (X Box media Centre) but it has now become so powerful that it no longer runs on the XBOX.
Kodi will run on virtually all computer platforms making it a truely universal product - remember this is all "open source software" and available for free.
Although possible it is difficult to run Kodi under Apple's IOS (iPad/iPhone).
However, it works extremely well under Openelec on the Raspberry Pi
Once Kodi is loaded, there are a huge amount of free Addons that will turn your TV into a full media centre.
You can use it to stream films or watch live TV.

Easy
Don't be fooled by my complicated description above.
It is really very easy to set up and use.
Although Openelec is a Linux operating system, all the system settings are contained inside Kodi itself making it a "turnkey" system.
Most people wouldn't even know that they were running a powerful little computer - to an operator it looks just like any normal "set top box".
Here's a screen shot from Kodi (BBC News Channel)
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Addons
Once installed, it is possible to install Addons which are free to download and use.
The best Addon that I always install is an "Addon Installer" which interactively downloads and install most other Addons that are available.
Addons to check out are:-
iPlayerWWW - which is a good BBC iPlayer addon
FilmOn - a TV player that streams lots of TV channels throughout the world (BBC and ITV for example).
Exodus - watch any film ot TV series.
Plus many more

Watch films from USB Drive or Stick
Just plug in a USB Drive (Hard Drive if you like) or Memory Stick containing a film and Kodi will play it.

You can try it out by installing Kodi onto a PC.
Then getting it going on a Raspberry Pi is a doddle.

Limitations
There seems to be just one limitation.
BBC iPlayer requires that you have a TV Licence and that you are physically located in the UK before you can watch BBC TV over the internet.
At the moment, the solution for us in the Med is to "channel" the streams through a VPN (Virtual Private Network).
This means that as far as BBC iPlayer is concerned, you will "pop up" in the UK thus allowing you to watch iPlayer.
However, if you just want to watch live BBC TV, the FilmOn Addon will work without a VPN.
VPN's are available from professional websites at a monthly charge - usually about £5 per month.

If anyone is interested, I will post my full install notes with the internet links to get this all working.
 
Good write up; have to say it seems overly complicated. We just use a NOS mifi on the boat and it supplies all areas with 4g, including smart TV's/Laptops and so on. We use Tunnel Bear for the VPN which tricks most things.

Portugal is much more like the U.K. for data costs, unlimited with no contract for 25 bucks a month.

Must remember to post a picture of my birthday present...
 
I know some people use a VPN provider called StrongVPN. It's about US$50 a year and no adverts allegedly. It works with BBC, ITV, Channel4, netflix but not amazon prime allegedly. Apparently it works well on a Tescos Hudl. If you use Google play you don't need a VPN they seem to have European licenses. You really need an internet connection about 2.5Mb/s for it all to work or so I was told.
 
RPi is very easy to control over WiFi too from a laptop over a Wlan using Putty and SSH - excellent piece of kit, i wrote a simple Python routine using only one RPIO input coupled to a pir sensor and a PiCamera that when detecting occupancy recorded and stored a series of images or video. That was with a Pi-2, must order a Pi-3 now, I wish I had more time to play, great bit of kit.

Good information Mike as always, thanks for sharing.
 
Mike

Very good write up and very interesting. It does seem complicated but as you say it was quite easy. Can I ask how you would rate your IT ability out of say 10 where 1 is a complete novice and 10 is an IT professional

Regards

Dennis
 
A very interesting post, thankyou very much for sharing.

Would you also recommend your setup for UK use? I really like the idea of Raspberry Pi for controlling everything.
 
Hurricane - good write up. I think I have decided to also use 4G for TV on the boat. Although I was just going to use the Sky App on an iPad and watch this on a Smart TV. Setup a decent VPN and that would be it (hopefully). While I love gadgets and consider myself more than capable with anything IT I also dont want any wife/child on the boat saying "it doesnt work". They can all use an iPad.

Where do you get the unlimited 4G in spain? Do you have to go into a shop? Can you order online?

Thanks
Tony
 
Hurricane - good write up. I think I have decided to also use 4G for TV on the boat. Although I was just going to use the Sky App on an iPad and watch this on a Smart TV. Setup a decent VPN and that would be it (hopefully). While I love gadgets and consider myself more than capable with anything IT I also dont want any wife/child on the boat saying "it doesnt work". They can all use an iPad.

Where do you get the unlimited 4G in spain? Do you have to go into a shop? Can you order online?

Thanks
Tony

Bit expensive but this is the one I'm using.

http://www.nerja4g.com/prices/

I'm out often enough to buy the annual option so 70 euros per month.
 
excellent - think i will be out often enough as well! Will go for that. Have spent ages trying to find decent 4G that i can pay for online and just keep using the same card.
 
How fast is the MIMO /4G internet connection?

They say that in theory, you can get speeds up to 70Mb/s but in reality speed will be slower.
On 4G (LTE), I typically get about 40Mb/s but have had over 50Mb/s fastest and 20Mb/s slowest.
The router connects to 3G when 4G isn't available - 3G runs from anything from 1.5Mb/s up to about 4Mb/s (not really checked 3G though)

In reality, on our home berth, we get about 40Mb/s and when away (on anchor in Mallorca for example) we get between 2Mb/s and 4Mb/s

More importantly, I have a VOIP (telephone) service to home that now works perfectly (no lag etc) whereas on marina WiFi it only just worked.

Earlier in the year, on the home berth, I was getting a good 40Mb/s but SammyB showed up with their new boat in the next berth.
My speed then dropped to 22Mb/s so I installed this antenna and the speed went back to 40Mb/s.

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In reality, though, internet like this is a league ahead of anything we have ever got from marina WiFi.
This is definitely the future.
 
excellent - think i will be out often enough as well! Will go for that. Have spent ages trying to find decent 4G that i can pay for online and just keep using the same card.

I suggest that you phone them - speak to John - he is English (no Irish actually!!)
He gives us a very personal service - mention Mike, Harry, Guy and Graham from Sant Carles but there are more of us who use him.
 
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Chromecast and Firestick etc.

These are all proprietary products and IMO are less likely to run applications like Exodus.
Whereas Kodi on the Raspberry Pi is running in a native environment.
Those of you who don't know Exodus should look it up - I'll say no more.
 
Very interesting write up, thank you. I've been tempted to get a Rasperry PI for playing around with, must get one now... There really seems to be many uses for it and you, Mike, have done pioneering job with it within the boating community.

But for pure media playback I would also look at Chromecast. Dead simple to set up and control from your phone/tab/laptop and very affordable. Same requirements apply regarding the 4G router and VPN for BBC, of course.
 
A very interesting post, thankyou very much for sharing.

Would you also recommend your setup for UK use? I really like the idea of Raspberry Pi for controlling everything.

Well, I could bore you bigtime!!

At home, I have built a media center that lives under the lounge TV.
It is connected to the house LAN and, of course the internet.
The media center is a Windows PC and runs the server part of an open source product called MediaPortal.
Two satellite TV channels feed into into the media center using a DVBS2 card.
A windows version of Kodi runs on the media center box.
A PVR Kodi addon connects to the MediaPortal server to control/display live and recorded TV.
Just like any set top box I hear you say.
But the difference is that I also have a number of Raspberry Pis around the house connected to other TVs.
These Raspberry Pis are also on the house LAN and connect to the MediaPortal Windows system under the TV in the lounge.
The result is a totally integrated system - everything can be controlled from everywhere.
For example set up TV recordings in the Lounge and watch them in the Bedroom.
But, again Exodus can be run on any TV to watch any film (there's a hint)
Also BBC iPlayer on any TV
And the great thing is that I only have to show SWMBO once how to use it - all the systems are the same.
She can watch as many Eastenders as she likes.

Now, think about it.
I now have fast broadband on the boat.
A few years ago, I installed my own bespoke VPN between the boat and home.
That means that the boat is also on the home LAN and, of course, has access to the MediaPortal windows media center.
In reality, we don't often watch recorded TV from the media center to the boat - it is a bit inefficient (uncompressed HD TV across the internet!!).
But we often set up recordings on the media center when we are away on the boat.
MediaPortal also has a web interface so we can set up recordings (and play) TV from any browser.

Anyway, Kodi seems to be the focus of the whole system and the Raspberry Pi is just one way of running Kodi.
The Kodi Raspberry Pis are just an extension of the home system but anyone can use Kodi on a Raspberry Pi for not much money.

I said that I would bore you!!
 
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