Turkish Residence permits

[Squeaky]

Good evening:

There has been numerous posts over the past year or two concerning documentation required by the Turkish authorities and
especially about the difficulty of obtaining Short Term Residence permits (One Year).

My residence permit (Ikamet) expired on 1 Apr 2015 and I reported to the local police department in Marmaris with the following documents:

Transit Log (Original - officer made photocopy)
Current marina contract (original and photocopy)
Four passport type photos
Photocopies of the main page of my passport and of the page showing the latest entry stamp (in colour and on same page)
Application for Residence permit - downloadable from link below.

This site contains lots of information and a link to download applicable form which is a pdf file and can be completed on your computer before being printed:

(http://www.yellali.com/advice/question/83/how-do-i-apply-for-a-residency-permit-in-turkey

As I am over 65 years of age health insurance is/was not required.

No questions were asked about my financial situation although the source and amount of income was requested on the application form.

After the officer checked the bits and pieces of paper I was given a document to take to the tax office where I paid 273 Turkish lira and returned the receipt to the officer at the police station. I was told that the new permit would be mailed to the mailing address shown on the application.

Having ran the bureaucratic gantlet required to obtain a residence permit in the past plus all the negative posts on this subject I was mentally and emotionally prepared for a complicated process however was surprised to have the application accepted without any difficulty or bother - all very simple, efficient and straight forward - the officer spoke very good English.

Today I received a call from the marina reception to the effect that an envelope addressed to me had been received by them.

When I picked up the envelope later I was shocked to discover a new Residence Permit - 8 days after making application.

Why anyone would employ an agent to perform this task is beyond me and I can only suggest that anyone having problems submitting an application for a residence permit in Marmaris must be approaching the task with a negative, unhelpful attitude.

Two year Residence Permits are available for married couples however this requires translation and notarization of the marriage certificate which I suspect simply increases the cost as I believe a two year permit would be double the cost of a one year permit so were I eligible for such a permit I think I would not bother with the hassle and expense and simply apply for a one years permit and get an extension later.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste and remember what peace there maybe in silence.... (Desiderata)

Cheers

Squeaky

 

[sailaboutvic]

Good evening:

There has been numerous posts over the past year or two concerning documentation required by the Turkish authorities and
especially about the difficulty of obtaining Short Term Residence permits (One Year).

My residence permit (Ikamet) expired on 1 Apr 2015 and I reported to the local police department in Marmaris with the following documents:

Transit Log (Original - officer made photocopy)
Current marina contract (original and photocopy)
Four passport type photos
Photocopies of the main page of my passport and of the page showing the latest entry stamp (in colour and on same page)
Application for Residence permit - downloadable from link below.

This site contains lots of information and a link to download applicable form which is a pdf file and can be completed on your computer before being printed:

(http://www.yellali.com/advice/question/83/how-do-i-apply-for-a-residency-permit-in-turkey

As I am over 65 years of age health insurance is/was not required.

No questions were asked about my financial situation although the source and amount of income was requested on the application form.

After the officer checked the bits and pieces of paper I was given a document to take to the tax office where I paid 273 Turkish lira and returned the receipt to the officer at the police station. I was told that the new permit would be mailed to the mailing address shown on the application.

Having ran the bureaucratic gantlet required to obtain a residence permit in the past plus all the negative posts on this subject I was mentally and emotionally prepared for a complicated process however was surprised to have the application accepted without any difficulty or bother - all very simple, efficient and straight forward - the officer spoke very good English.

Today I received a call from the marina reception to the effect that an envelope addressed to me had been received by them.

When I picked up the envelope later I was shocked to discover a new Residence Permit - 8 days after making application.

Why anyone would employ an agent to perform this task is beyond me and I can only suggest that anyone having problems submitting an application for a residence permit in Marmaris must be approaching the task with a negative, unhelpful attitude.

Two year Residence Permits are available for married couples however this requires translation and notarization of the marriage certificate which I suspect simply increases the cost as I believe a two year permit would be double the cost of a one year permit so were I eligible for such a permit I think I would not bother with the hassle and expense and simply apply for a one years permit and get an extension later.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste and remember what peace there maybe in silence.... (Desiderata)

Cheers

Squeaky

Hi Squeaky , if we decided to spend a inter in Turkey , we will look you up so you can guard us the right way mate .

 

[Pinetops]

Thanks Squeaky

Your experience is consistent with the information on the Cruising Association Member's website. But did you learn anything about the 120 day cancellation clause and how that might affect someone returning after the winter break. Would they have to enter on a Visitor's Visa? Also the new system states the first application has to be made outside Turkey but hopefully it will be recognised that documentation requirements make this unworkable.

Pinetops

 

[Squeaky]

Good afternoon Pinetops

I am by no means an authority concerning residence permits however I noticed this information (see link below) some time ago and it seems fairly accurate and timely:

The 120 day rule
This is how the so called "120 day rule" works in simple terms. (For information, 120 days is roughly 17 weeks).

Every time you go in and out of Turkey your details are recorded in a Police database. This computer system keeps a track of your comings and goings. It also shows if you have residency permission.

If you have short term residency permission and you have been out of Turkey for a total of more than 120 days, (cumulative - not necessarily contiguous), in the previous 12 months, then according to the law and confirmed by this new advice from the British Consulate, your residence permit will be cancelled on re-entry to Turkey and you must obtain either an e-Visa, or visa on arrival, to cover your stay until you wish to reapply for a residence permit.

The British Consulate goes on to say that you will be able to apply for a new residence permit immediately following cancellation of your existing one. How the authorities determine the cancellation date is not clear.
http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/...7-turkish-residency-rules-update-january-2015

Please note that the "term short term residency" is the term now used for a one year residence permit (Ikamet).

Cheers

Squeaky

 

[macd]

re breach of 120 day rule: I've seen it reported, with some weight, that your "residence permit can be cancelled on re-entry to Turkey." Unfortunately I've seen nothing about factors which may influence the decision one way or the other.

 

[Tony Cross]

One of the major factors the CA has discovered is that the understanding and interpretation of the residency laws varies from place to place and there is currently no consistent implementation of the laws throughout Turkey.

 

[maxy]

Good evening:

There has been numerous posts over the past year or two concerning documentation required by the Turkish authorities and
especially about the difficulty of obtaining Short Term Residence permits (One Year).

My residence permit (Ikamet) expired on 1 Apr 2015 and I reported to the local police department in Marmaris with the following documents:

Transit Log (Original - officer made photocopy)
Current marina contract (original and photocopy)
Four passport type photos
Photocopies of the main page of my passport and of the page showing the latest entry stamp (in colour and on same page)
Application for Residence permit - downloadable from link below.

This site contains lots of information and a link to download applicable form which is a pdf file and can be completed on your computer before being printed:

(http://www.yellali.com/advice/question/83/how-do-i-apply-for-a-residency-permit-in-turkey

As I am over 65 years of age health insurance is/was not required.

No questions were asked about my financial situation although the source and amount of income was requested on the application form.

After the officer checked the bits and pieces of paper I was given a document to take to the tax office where I paid 273 Turkish lira and returned the receipt to the officer at the police station. I was told that the new permit would be mailed to the mailing address shown on the application.

Having ran the bureaucratic gantlet required to obtain a residence permit in the past plus all the negative posts on this subject I was mentally and emotionally prepared for a complicated process however was surprised to have the application accepted without any difficulty or bother - all very simple, efficient and straight forward - the officer spoke very good English.

Today I received a call from the marina reception to the effect that an envelope addressed to me had been received by them.

When I picked up the envelope later I was shocked to discover a new Residence Permit - 8 days after making application.

Why anyone would employ an agent to perform this task is beyond me and I can only suggest that anyone having problems submitting an application for a residence permit in Marmaris must be approaching the task with a negative, unhelpful attitude.

Two year Residence Permits are available for married couples however this requires translation and notarization of the marriage certificate which I suspect simply increases the cost as I believe a two year permit would be double the cost of a one year permit so were I eligible for such a permit I think I would not bother with the hassle and expense and simply apply for a one years permit and get an extension later.

Go placidly amid the noise and the haste and remember what peace there maybe in silence.... (Desiderata)

Cheers

Squeaky

The experience of foriegn nationals with an RP recently returning over the 120 day rule say they have had no problems. I'd guess once the 'rules' have been passed through layers of bureacracy it will become acgive in around 12 months. More information on personal experiences and many other Expat related subjects can be found on Doc Martins Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/groups/544167955696716/

Cheers
Kevin

 

[akyaka]

re breach of 120 day rule: I've seen it reported, with some weight, that your "residence permit can be cancelled on re-entry to Turkey." Unfortunately I've seen nothing about factors which may influence the decision one way or the other.

There are a number of reasons written into the Law. Most relate to illegality/criminality but the one that has most concern is the 120 day rule which as has been said does not appear to being implemented at the moment.The yellali site that Squeaky usefully links to above has a lot of relevant information

If you have an existing RP and concerned the advice is get an E visa as back up but present your RP on entry. We are due back shortly and having spent more than 120 days out of the country in the 12 months preceding entry will present our RPs and if rejected get an E mail at the airport.We will then go and obtain new Residencies the procedure for which as Squeaky says is much simpler and speedier than before, probably because the dedicated staff rather than the police are increasingly dealing with applications. What Squeaky does not mention is there is also a tracker system in place for your application. First time applications and renewals are continuing to be dealt with in Turkey for the foreseeable future .

 

[akyaka]

mcd this is an English translation of the residency Act, Law No 6458 . Article 33 may assist your better understanding of factors which influence decisions re cancellation on re-entry

http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/5167fbb20.pdf

 

[macd]

Many thanks, akyaka.
S.33 doesn't seem to add much to what is known, but appears to conifrm that permits may be -- as opposed to will be -- withdrawn if in breach of 120 days rule.