Trotman barge below Hampton court

Just found out today that because he is letting rooms on them , the PLA are classing them as commercial vessels , which to be on PLA waters need to be coded. Obviously they are not , due to them being squalid heaps of shit. Therefore the PLA is well within its rights to refuse them permission to be on their waters.

I suspect if they enter PLA waters they will be taken in tow immediately and removed to Denton and moored to a buoy until such time as they can pass the PLA coding ( never )

A PLA duty boat is stationing itself at Teddington Lock on each tide ( day and night ) to observe Trotmans movements should he attempt to head downstream.

Watch this space.

Obviously the person talking of nimbyism knows nothing about these boats and as such the troll should go unfed.
 
Hui is back across to the lay-by, and the whole Teddington fleet has now shunted down towards the bottom end.

Seems likely that he does aspire to bring the lot through the lock.

EA, LBRuT, and PLA will need to work together to achieve a good outcome now.
 
boatone said:
Yes, it's a requirement for registration. But if a boat isn't registered .......
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The County Court Judgement implies that the boats are registered (licensed). Which as has been pointed out here implies the boats have a BSS certificate and Insurance. Am I alone in finding this completely implausible?
 
We all know the slum boats have been a nightmare to river lovers and and locals for donkeys years and nobody really knows what's going to happen to them when they eventually go or where they are going to ! The burning question for me is where on earth did they come from in the first place???
 
Actionmat said:
One of his wrecks is unpowered, so does it need a BSS?
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A BSS is required for all vessels on inland waters, unless it is an open boat, with no domestic cooking, heating, refrigerating or lighting appliances installed and is not propelled by an inboard engine. So sailing dinghies, canoes, rowing boats, dories / ribs (with outboard motors only) are exempt, but most certainly not houseboats.

Conversely, vessels which are primarily used for residential purposes fall under the Gas Safety [Installation and Use] Regulations (GSIUR). Anyone working on such systems (including BSS examinations) has to be GasSafe registered, which very few BSS examiners are. As the previous poster pointed out, it would be interesting to find out who issued the BSS certificates for these vessels, and whether they were actually qualified to do so.

Of course, this case does point out the gaping hole in the BSS, in that it takes no account of the structural condition of the vessel, or the physical safety of those embarked.
 
All the boats came up the tideway. 2 Are Thames lighters. One is a ex Dutch water authority vessel. Other one I don't know its origin.

Most of the building work was carried out at the moorings on Ham Riverside.
 
dombuckley said:
A BSS is required for all vessels on inland waters, unless it is an open boat, with no domestic cooking, heating, refrigerating or lighting appliances installed and is not propelled by an inboard engine. So sailing dinghies, canoes, rowing boats, dories / ribs (with outboard motors only) are exempt, but most certainly not houseboats.

Conversely, vessels which are primarily used for residential purposes fall under the Gas Safety [Installation and Use] Regulations (GSIUR). Anyone working on such systems (including BSS examinations) has to be GasSafe registered, which very few BSS examiners are. As the previous poster pointed out, it would be interesting to find out who issued the BSS certificates for these vessels, and whether they were actually qualified to do so.

Of course, this case does point out the gaping hole in the BSS, in that it takes no account of the structural condition of the vessel, or the physical safety of those embarked.
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Most vessels needing insurance would need a survey before cover can be issued.
A commercial survey is considerably more onerous than anything for leisure purposes. !
 
oldgit said:
Most vessels needing insurance would need a survey before cover can be issued.
A commercial survey is considerably more onerous than anything for leisure purposes. !
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I would be highly surprised if they're insured for more than third party cover, for which a survey is not required.
 
Well, I looked up Hui in the ex Jim Shead listing. There's a boat which certainly could be it, Dutch built and the right size registered recently, but as a non-hire.

We've all just received our renewal documents which include a special reminder the boats on which accommodation is let out need to be registered in a hire category!

I couldn't find any of the others, but then it's not clear what their names really are.
 
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No doubt sold to 64 persons of no fixed abode or nationality, so EA will face an impossible task of dealing with the "owner".
 
I would use the standard advice given on here if anyone's interested in this vessel.......bid low to start with....you can always go up in small increments if smitten :)
 
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