Transferring the outboard between dinghy and mother ship

The cargo lift in your first post is the basis for a solution. It can be made from 25mm SS tube and if you were to substitute pins for bolts/screws for the two caps where the boom assembly meets the upright it would be the work of moments to fold the thing up for stowage. It'd be strong enough to cope with your engine: I've built something similar (albeit fixed in place) to do the same job for my dinghy outboard.

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Hadenough said:
It's an outboard, metal and plastic. I wouldn't give up sailing because I was worried about losing an outboard. (Assuming it's an old cheap one) and anyway doesn't he use a seagull!!
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And if I get back to the dinghy and find some scrote has nicked the outboard I just clap my hands , utter some magic words and a new one will appear to take me back to the yard I suppose.
Who do you think I am Paul Daniels?
 
duncan99210 said:
The cargo lift in your first post is the basis for a solution. It can be made from 25mm SS tube and if you were to substitute pins for bolts/screws for the two caps where the boom assembly meets the upright it would be the work of moments to fold the thing up for stowage. It'd be strong enough to cope with your engine: I've built something similar (albeit fixed in place) to do the same job for my dinghy outboard.

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Yes I am sure thats the best solution.

The bottom could sit in a stanchion socket but I am not quire sure how I would make the fixing on the rail so that the whole thing rotates easily , Perhaps I need to go take a close look at the one pictured in my opening post.
Yours looks as though the spars rotate about the upright.
 
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I solved this problem in about 2004 by designing a mini-davit which PBO published. It's made of 25 mm. S/S tubing., is very unobtrusive and so is bolted permanently onto the pushpit. It will support my 75Kg so has no problems with my Mariner 3.3. I'll search around for the article which includes pics.
 
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Yes I am sure thats the best solution.

The bottom could sit in a stanchion socket but I am not quire sure how I would make the fixing on the rail so that the whole thing rotates easily , Perhaps I need to go take a close look at the one pictured in my opening post.
Yours looks as though the spars rotate about the upright.
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Yes, they do. The jubilee clips are there to stop the boom dropping down: bit of a bodge but it's worked for the past four years, so unlikely to be changed now! You could make the thing up in 22mm thick walled tube and fix a length 25mm thin walled tube to a stanchion: the 22mm tube should simply slide into the 25mm one.
 
VicS said:
I have launched my boat this year for the final time. I should have done so several years ago but for various reasons didn't

The trouble now is that i cannot climb on board with the dinghy outboard. I always used to be able to grab hold of it in one hand and climb aboard. Now I can't. Likewise not likely to be able to get back into the dinghy with it either.

The outboard is between 12 and 13 kg.

A cargo boom like this is a bit OTT with a capacity of 35kg , probably too large to stow conveniently and costs more than I want to pay for a very limited number of uses.

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I thought about using the boom ( and the mainsheet tackle) but realised that once swung over the side it would cross the deck just where I need to climb up!
I suppose I could also rig a tackle so that I could lift the outboard from the dinghy and then haul the boom back out of the way but its all starting to get too complicated.

Anybody done anything relatively simple to solve this ?
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For the last 20 years and 3 inflatables, I've had a lanyard on the OB carrying handle, which is also the CofG.
I tie the dinghy alongside, usually to port. It's trailed @ anchor.
Unship the OB, place it on the dinghy floor, tie the lanyard to the rail, climb out and hoist up the OB.
To replace on the dinghy transom, just reverse the operation.
Mind, I've still got a 2-stroke OB which is handleable, unlike many 4-strokes.
So far this season I've carried out the operation 18 times - I've found it rather easier with the RIB, deeper, higher dinghy seat (relative to waterline) and less chance of being jammed under the seat.

PS I note many have referred to the pulpit clamp for the dinghy OB - I've had 3, all made of plastic (first one given to me, the other two cheap end-of-line items) all just bolt round the top pulpit tube and take far less time to change than re-varnishing a home-made one every 3 years).
 
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That would be very helpful to see if you can find the article .I have a 27 kg outboard that I lift on and off and have done for years but I know it will end in tears as age catches up with me so need to find a solution .
 
ostra4 said:
That would be very helpful to see if you can find the article .I have a 27 kg outboard that I lift on and off and have done for years but I know it will end in tears as age catches up with me so need to find a solution .
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For a 27kg OB you'll need a tackle - I can just get a 25kg water canister on board from dinghy to side-deck, and that involves a stop on the side tube. That's @ age 80.
Most with such gargantuan tenders have davit for the whole lot, dinghy and OB on transom.
 
In line with the Two Uses for the Price of One philosophy, I am tempted to up the spec for the tubing a bit, then I have

an outboard lift

a MOB recovery aid

a pole for a solar panel


The boat's accountant will be pleased !
 
I too would like a solution from transfering my new Honda 2.4 from dinghy to transom of my Intro 22. Many myself included at the club have come back to find inverted tender with outboard when left when windy/choppy tide. (thames)
 
My way is to attach a rope to the ob harness, loosen ob clamps, pull dingy round parallel to transom with the dingy stern line (you could equally pull it alongside and tether with a stern line), climb aboard, lift ob aboard.

To put it back I lower ob into dingy, climb down into dingy, then lift ob into transom.

Home made OB harness:

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I used to have a heavy 4hp outboard known as 'the ancient mariner'.
I used to transfer the outboard safety line to the toe rail of the yacht.
Lift the outboard into the tender, leave it in the middle of the floor.
Board yacht.
Lift outboard by safety line.
The harness pictured above looks good.

The yamaha 2, I just lift by the leg and hang it on the pushpit.

Maybe some sort of fixture you could hang the outboard on at roughly toe-rail height would help?
Maybe something like the side-mount engine brackets used on some racing keelboats?
 
Vic

This is my outboard hoist, a but OTT for your outboard but a lighter version could be made.

I have some clamp on bearings that attach to my pushpit for yours some PVC tube clamped to the pulpit with worm clips could be used to support and allow it to swivel. Could also be lifted out and stowed when not in use.

This could be used also

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stainless-S...shing-Rod-Holder-Rack-Equipment-/131862124812

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PS my outboard is painted orange to try to stop it being stolen.
 
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Rogershaw said:
Vic

This is my outboard hoist, a but OTT for your outboard but a lighter version could be made.



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If I made anything like that I'd aim to make it swing right round so that the engine could be lowered into / picked up from the cockpit.

I can lift the Seagull horizontally and disconnect the guardrail so no need to lift it particularly high, Just enough to come over the coaming.
 
VicS said:
If I made anything like that I'd aim to make it swing right round so that the engine could be lowered into / picked up from the cockpit.

I can lift the Seagull horizontally and disconnect the guardrail so no need to lift it particularly high, Just enough to come over the coaming.
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I agree. My outboard sits on a bracket just by the hoist so I don't need it to swing more than 180 degrees. I could not make it swing any more due to all the dubbins around.

My outboard is 15 hp so a lot heaver than yours so it you made one it will not need to be as heavy as mine. You also don't need the sunshade and solar mounts like I do.

PS how did you turn the pic round.
 
Rogershaw said:
PS how did you turn the pic round.
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I actaully copied it into "Paint" and turned it round there them imported it into Photobucket and adjusted the lighting.
I could have done it all in Photobucket but the funny thing is when I do that it its automatically the right way up .... odd.

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You should be able to edit yourself using the editing tools in P'bucket. They can be useful to titivate a not very good picture before posting it. i often fiddle with the lighting even for my own photos.
 
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Yes I have tried that in photobucket but sometimes it works and some times it doesn't, Can't figger.

I can do it on my own PC at home but I don't that picture editing on my boat PC so cannot pre edit there.
 
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