Transferring ob to dinghy

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This is one of the operations I don't like as I'm not as nimble as before.

However, I have a fishing rod holder on the pulpit beside where the ob is. I thought of using a pole that would fit inside the rod holder with a pulley on the end to facilitate the task.

Does anybody see any complications?
 
yep. A fishing rod weighs 2kg, and an outboard 40kg. The rod holder will not be designed to take that load. You need a gantry of some sort.
 
I'm afraid I agree, the rod holder isn't likely to be strong enough in the long term even if it works at first. I've pondered about this and believe that the best solution is to bring the dinghy alongside, swing the boom out over it and use the mainsheet to lower the ob into the dinghy. I'd advocate a tether to the yacht until safely into the dinghy - it won't stop it dropping in the drink, but at least you can pull it out. It would entail fastening the mainsheet tackle to the car with a snap shackle, but that also proves useful for moving it to the rail to get the boom out of the way once moored.

Rob.
 
sarabande said:
yep. A fishing rod weighs 2kg, and an outboard 40kg. The rod holder will not be designed to take that load. You need a gantry of some sort.
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Or a lifting crane. This one we leave in place but the top half is actually removeable and can fold away for storage in locker if we wish. We had a stern gantry for solar panels on our last UK based boat and used a simple tackle shackled on that to lift the then little Honda 2hp.
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sarabande said:
yep. A fishing rod weighs 2kg, and an outboard 40kg. The rod holder will not be designed to take that load. You need a gantry of some sort.
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Actually it's about 13 kg. The weight itself is not the problem, it's rather a case of balance. The rod holder is imo very substantial and I don't think that the very occasional use would be a problem.
 
Sybarite said:
This is one of the operations I don't like as I'm not as nimble as before.

However, I have a fishing rod holder on the pulpit beside where the ob is. I thought of using a pole that would fit inside the rod holder with a pulley on the end to facilitate the task.

Does anybody see any complications?
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Weight of the OB.?
There are many crane designs around.
We have a crane arm attached to the radarmast.
Using the spinnaker winch we can easily lift the 9.9 hp 4 stroke.
I always use a safety line attached to the engine
 
When we user to have a Tinker with a 4hp o/b I used to lash the tender alongside fore and aft and lower the o/b into the tender on a piece of rope that was tied to the boat. It was only ever going to go into the tender. Then I'd get in, settle myself down and with the rope attached to the boat for safety it was quite easy to wiggle the o/b over the transom.
 
Sybarite said:
This is one of the operations I don't like as I'm not as nimble as before.

However, I have a fishing rod holder on the pulpit beside where the ob is. I thought of using a pole that would fit inside the rod holder with a pulley on the end to facilitate the task.

Does anybody see any complications?
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Personally, it's not a problem I have, as the outboard I use is very light and SWMBO can simply pass it to me.
Or if it's very rough, I lower the o/b on a rope into the middle of the dinghy then deal with it from in the dinghy.

I think dangling it on a crane of any sort could be pretty awkward in any swell such as a lively day in Salcombe.
I'd rather be securely knelt down in the dinghy when putting it on or off the transom.
I've thought about some sort of harness that goes around the head of the outboard to give better lifting handles, or maybe something so you could just hang it a deck level without it attacking the gel coat.
Perhaps a padded bag like a racing dinghy's rudder bag?
 
My honda 2hp is so easy to lift (one handed) compared to my pals 4 hp yamaha. A light OB is a good starting point and reduces loads whatever system you employ.
Secondly when we were man handling the heavy ob, we tied the the dinghy transom end nearest the stern of the yacht, and we used two people and a securing line in case she slipped. It shouldn't be difficult to come up with a suitable pulley arrangement on an upright secured to the pushpit.
 
We keep our little 2hp Yamaha zipped in a bag with carry handles. We can hand it up or down to one another using the handles to keep hold of it horizontally and the padding of the bag to protect the engine and the stern. Once it's in the dinghy I take it out and drop it on the Avon bracket or transom. Works for us (mid 60s).
 
lw395 said:
Personally, it's not a problem I have, as the outboard I use is very light and SWMBO can simply pass it to me.
Or if it's very rough, I lower the o/b on a rope into the middle of the dinghy then deal with it from in the dinghy.
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That's the ticket. You are much more stable on the boat. In the tender all sorts of things can go wrong. Leaving a lanyard attached to Mother Ship until the job is completed is also a good idea.
 
when we had a tackle setup on the gantry on our Sun Legende, it was attached to a harness on the engine which on it's own would be of help. It was actually a dog harness bought on Lymington market which adjusted enough to fit very well and give a top handle. we now have a 9.9hp 4 stroke fitted with a proper (as in expensive) marine harness that the crane in my pic above attaches to. It does get harder as you get older ( doesn't almost everything!) and gives a different version of a knee trembler standing up in a dink!:eek:
 
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VicMallows said:
.... but must be a horror story with the (now compulsory) 4-strokes :disgust:
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+1 The amount of times my 2 stroke ends up on its head side etc I keep it in a locker and if I have a good days sailing its not very good at staying still...

Even during the boat dinghy transfer I put it on deck tie it to a guard rail on longish length of rope. Then jump in dinghy and lift it off, if I had to pratt about with orientation I think I would take up rowing!
 
onesea said:
+1 The amount of times my 2 stroke ends up on its head side etc I keep it in a locker and if I have a good days sailing its not very good at staying still...

Even during the boat dinghy transfer I put it on deck tie it to a guard rail on longish length of rope. Then jump in dinghy and lift it off, if I had to pratt about with orientation I think I would take up rowing!
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Make chocks in the locker to retain the motor.

Put a white vinyl dot on the engine cover on the side that needs to be uppermost. When you take hold of it make sure the dot is at the top. How hard can it be?
 
Yes, the Salty John motor grip has made things much easier.
As explained, the motor can be handled with one hand.
Now, I tie the dinghy across the stern, alongside the transom/scoop step.
I stand the Honda 2hp on the step, step into the dinghy, then lift the outboard into the dinghy and onto the transom in one movement.
It feels a lot safer.
A hoist would be even better.
 
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